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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP15 Oct 2018 3:48 p.m. PST

"During the battle of Crysler' Farm (the American army under the command of general Wilkinson see The battle Crysler' Farm in November 11th, 1813)), met an inferior in number English-Canadian strength but exceptionally pulled

The American staff varies according to the sources of 2500 to 4000 men effectively committed in the action of this day. 9th, 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 16th, 21st, 25th US infantry, 2nd light dragoon, 1st rifle and 6 pieces of ordnance composed the American strength which had in front of her only elements of Canadian fencible, Canadian acrobats, militia, Indians and 49th and 89th regiment of football. Either 8 regular regiments of infantry against two.

In several successive attacks the Americans failed to make their opponent bend and finally had to beat a retreat having undergone 450 losses against 200 for the English-Canadian…."
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Amicalement
Armand

arthur181516 Oct 2018 12:03 a.m. PST

I see those Canadian 'acrobats' are back in action!

21eRegt16 Oct 2018 7:33 a.m. PST

I have gamed it using "Cousin Jonathan" with special rules in place to make it extremely difficult, though not impossible, for the Americans to coordinate their efforts. We got a rather historic result though the British took heavier casualties.

marshalGreg16 Oct 2018 8:57 a.m. PST

Yes I gamed it. Rules I do not recall, except many dice for the volley fire ( Red coat?).
Yes very hard for the British, after giving the Americans a bloody nose their center cracked just before our flanks did so we pulled off a narrow victory.
I do not know how the GM coordinated to poor American coordination problem but it seem to make for a level playing field for the game.
There is no way otherwise, a force of such small size could hold out with all that enemy forces, thrown upon them.

IronDuke596 Supporting Member of TMP16 Oct 2018 9:54 a.m. PST

Yes, we gamed this battle in 2013. I believe it was our first War of 1812 game (still gaming the War of 1812 – just finished Bladensburg – North Point next).

We use General de Brigade with a 1812 addendum. A great set of rules for the War of 1812 as it is designed for divisional level games.

For Crysler's Farm we had every unit represented including a British gunboat with a 24pdr gun. It helped equalize the sides. Also, we had two rule constraints; if American troops came within 18" of Indians they had to conduct an immediate morale check with a -1 factor, second, American's troops on entering long musket range would roll a D6 to ascertain if they fired at long range, halt, move into effective range or player's choice.

These constraints reflected the reality of the battle and also helped equalize the asymmetric number of troops. We played this game twice with the British/Canadians winning the first battle and the Americans the second.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP16 Oct 2018 11:50 a.m. PST

Many thanks!.


Amicalement
Armand

itaphil Supporting Member of TMP16 Oct 2018 1:29 p.m. PST

I've gamed it at least twice. Once with the Compleat Brigadier and the second with Cold Steel from Historic Enterprises (free rules online based loosely on the Compleat Brigadier.

Fun and challenging game both times.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP17 Oct 2018 12:06 p.m. PST

Thanks also!.


Amicalement
Armand

Glenn Pearce19 Oct 2018 7:24 a.m. PST

Hello Armand!

Played it a few times using Baccus 6mm figures, rules "Ruse de Guerre" that are designed for wars in North America 1754 – 1815. Baccus even sells 1812-1815 army packs and the rules. A great game, the players are always anxious to play it again!

Best regards,

Glenn

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP19 Oct 2018 11:51 a.m. PST

Thanks for share!… (smile)


Amicalement
Armand

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