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Garde de Paris14 Oct 2018 8:20 a.m. PST

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I understand this raid was "pushed" to get the Army Air Corp turned into the US Air Force, independent arm.

Dozens of B-17's had to turn back to bases for mechanical problems; 60 B-17's shot down; ?17? that returned judged too shot up to repair. Close to 25% of aircraft "lost."

GdeP

Garde de Paris14 Oct 2018 8:20 a.m. PST

Sorry!

It did not look like my posting was registering!C

My bad!

GdeP

Thresher0114 Oct 2018 11:32 a.m. PST

Yep, lots of planes lost, and the rate of those shot down was the same as on the first, combined, Schweinfurt/Regensburg raid.

If you combine those "damaged", it's over a 67% casualty rate, not even adjusting for those planes aborting before the raid carried on.

Of course, I suspect some of those may have been minorly, or moderately damaged to, by flak and fighters.

Still, amazing they continued on after such losses. The air crews were brave men indeed.

Wackmole9 Supporting Member of TMP14 Oct 2018 3:01 p.m. PST

Little Know fact the 15th air force also hit the area and suffered little looses. They were never given credit as they weren't part of the " Mighty 8th "

wrgmr114 Oct 2018 5:35 p.m. PST

60 B-17's shot down. That's 600 aircrew lost in one day. Not including killed and wounded in returning aircraft.

jdginaz14 Oct 2018 5:39 p.m. PST

I think it was less that they weren't part of the 8th and more that the tragedy of the 8th's losses tends to naturally draw all the attention.

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP15 Oct 2018 3:18 a.m. PST

The three deadliest military "jobs" for the US in WW II, in order:

Bomber Crew
Merchant Marine
Submariner

Thresher0115 Oct 2018 1:32 p.m. PST

Surprised tanks crews aren't in that mix.

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP16 Oct 2018 3:23 a.m. PST

The casualty rate was higher for US infantry in WW II than for tank crew members.

jdginaz17 Oct 2018 10:13 p.m. PST

US Armor casualty rate in WWII was very low.

Mark 119 Oct 2018 5:23 p.m. PST

No no no! Shermans were death traps. Ronsons! They all burned and everyone died.

Haven't you read all the other internet forums?

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP20 Oct 2018 11:07 a.m. PST

We should make a pact here on TMP. If anyone resorts to Belton Cooper they automatically lose the argument. :)

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