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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP13 Oct 2018 8:51 p.m. PST

Three sets of vehicles are available in 15mm at Battlefront for the Red Army.

Katyusha Guards Rocket Battery (Plastic) (SBX44)

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BA-10 Armoured Car Platoon (SBX46)

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DShK AA MG Platoon (SBX38)

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Amicalement
Armand

langobard Supporting Member of TMP14 Oct 2018 2:10 a.m. PST

Daft question: were Katyusha "Guards Rocket Batteries" or "Guards Mortar Batteries"?

Of course, vagaries of translation may render the question moot, but I have the idea in my head that they were 'Guards Mortar Batteries' as type of deception / secrecy process.

Col Piron14 Oct 2018 5:58 a.m. PST

Daft question: were Katyusha "Guards Rocket Batteries" or "Guards Mortar Batteries"?

Guards Rocket Mortar Battalions . thumbs up

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP14 Oct 2018 1:58 p.m. PST

(smile)

Amicalement
Armand

langobard Supporting Member of TMP14 Oct 2018 3:36 p.m. PST

@ Col Piron: Many thanks!

Frontovik16 Oct 2018 5:29 a.m. PST

Under Artillery.

rkka.ru/iorg.htm

"Guards Mortar Division/Battery"

Gvardeskii Minometnii Divizion
Gvardeskaya Minometnaya Batareya

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP17 Oct 2018 11:06 a.m. PST

Thanks!.


Amicalement
Armand

Col Piron17 Oct 2018 2:42 p.m. PST

Its different in the FOW world .

Frontovik18 Oct 2018 4:04 a.m. PST

Apologies. I thought we were discussing reality. ;o)

Mark 119 Oct 2018 12:00 p.m. PST

Well, "Guards Rocket Mortar" vs. "Guards Mortar" aside (and yes, "Guards Mortar" is the way I have always seen it in Russian-sourced material), my expression of disappointment is about the subject matter of the model, not the label applied to it.

Or I should say, the subject matter that is not modeled. No actual complaint about what is modeled. Just disappointment about what never seems to be modeled.

I've seen Katyushas modeled on Studebaker trucks (as this one appears from the box art, if I trust the rendering), which would probably have been the dominant mounted version in 1944 and 45. And I've seen them modeled on ZiS trucks, which would probably have been more common in 1943.

But what I have not seen modeled* is the non-SP Katyusha rocket system(s). From my readings (and pictures I've seen) the ground mounts were the dominant type in 1942, and probably in 1943. And the ground mounts were still present in numbers through the last offensive on Berlin.

And everyone wants to do the BM-13 (13cm) version. What about the 8cm, the 24cm, or even the 31cm versions?

How about a M-8-12 trailer or sled? Or an M-31-8 trailer?

And while we're at it, what about a SP mount that isn't on a truck? Like a BM-8-24 on a T-60 light tank, or even a BM-8-8 on a Willys jeep?

So many Soviet barrage rocket types, but we just get replays of the same thing again and again.

Sigh …

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

*Note: Maybe they are out there somewhere. But I haven't seen 'em.

Frontovik22 Oct 2018 1:05 a.m. PST

True, you can get every variation of German gear going (hell, Warlord even do a model of what was probably a single field modification – the T26 turret on a French chassis*) but try and get anything out of the narrow T34 chassis/Lend Lease truck for the Soviets and you're embarking on an odyssey.

Personally I want 82mm mortars on motorbike sidecars.

*and it was almost certainly welded in place as a fixed mount. :o)

Griefbringer24 Oct 2018 7:02 a.m. PST

So many Soviet barrage rocket types, but we just get replays of the same thing again and again

Is the situation much better for other WWII combatants? Germans had a bunch of different systems, but on the model front the selection tends to be limited to six-barreled Nebelwerfers.

US and Commonwealth forces also fielded a number of launchers for 4.5" rockets, but models for these are not commonplace.

Then again, how many wargame rules even have rules for artillery rockets?

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