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Firefly VC12 Oct 2018 8:38 a.m. PST

I have a variety of manufacturers in my collections newly growing collection. But I have noticed some cavalry have a long glove/gauntlet on the left arm, while most do not. I have been looking through various sources. In other peoples painted miniatures I have seen this painted black or metal. I have only seen one illustration, which shows it as black. Is this meant to be a metal gauntlet? Or is more of a hardened leather, usually black? I assume it was only on the left arm to allow more freedom of movement for the right to wield weapons.

Charge The Guns12 Oct 2018 8:59 a.m. PST

Hi Firefly, It would have been normal for cavalry to have leather gauntlets on both hands, and in addition well equipped troops would also have a metal 'bridle gauntlet' which covered their left hand and lower arm. This was to protect the vulnerable left hand/arm that controlled the horse's reigns.

There is a nice picture showing this on the Warlord site here: link

The front box cover art shows a cavalryman setting about a bunch of pikemen. You will see the blackened bridle gauntlet on his left hand/arm.

Metal armour was typically blackened during this period to protect it from rust. I expect there were different 'recipes', but soot and oil, baked on, is one from memory.

Firefly VC12 Oct 2018 11:44 a.m. PST

Thanks for the information. I was thinking it was a black hardened leather affair, but didn't know about the 'rust inhibitor'. Am going to try a mix of gun metal and black to see if I like it.

GurKhan12 Oct 2018 12:22 p.m. PST

This portrait of Natheniel Fiennes – link – is one of the best-known representations, and James II's armour – link – is another good example.

Timmo uk12 Oct 2018 12:53 p.m. PST

I've never come across the hardened leather variety – it would be great if one of the ECW experts could confirm one way or the other if they were used.

Firefly VC13 Oct 2018 9:56 a.m. PST

I am not saying they used hardened leather (I new to this period). I merely said I couldn't tell if the gauntlet was metal or leather based on the few illustrations I saw. The examples and explanations make it clear to me this was metal.

KeepYourPowderDry14 Oct 2018 5:07 a.m. PST

Sir Thomas Fairfax certainly wore a metal left hand gauntlet, it's on display at the National Civil War Centre in Newark. The display label with the gauntlet states that it was fairly common practice to wear an armoured left glove and a leather right.

His gauntlet is top right in the picture, armour on leather.

picture

Pic from link

Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP14 Oct 2018 8:56 a.m. PST

Loving those black leather boots! So well preserved.

Charge The Guns15 Oct 2018 7:11 a.m. PST

Always great to see actual artefacts, like that. Great pic KYPD38!

Elenderil20 Nov 2018 1:59 p.m. PST

Russeting was another preserving technique for armour but I have no idea how it was done. Linseed oil applied to hot metal creates a browning effect or at least it does to my matchlock musket barrel after cleaning. It's hot due to the boiling water and powder solvent used to clear the crud out of it!

KeepYourPowderDry28 Nov 2018 1:13 p.m. PST

On display at Royal Armouries Leeds is a buff leather gauntlet, extra thickness and protection from buff leather fish-scales.

Charge The Guns28 Nov 2018 11:58 p.m. PST

That is a very interesting find! Perhaps an alternative now for figure designers.

There is akso great view of the classic metal bridle arm armour in your excellent Royal Armouries blog post.

KeepYourPowderDry29 Nov 2018 6:05 a.m. PST

Thanks

It is an interesting design. Squared off hand protection with gloved fingers underneath

KeepYourPowderDry05 Dec 2018 5:41 a.m. PST

Another pair of buff fish scale gauntlets, this time no extra protection for the bridle arm

KeepYourPowderDry05 Dec 2018 5:43 a.m. PST

this time a close up of an armoured bridle gauntlet

Codsticker06 Dec 2018 8:57 a.m. PST

Great pictures KYPD38- thank you for sharing them.

Charge The Guns06 Dec 2018 1:37 p.m. PST

Thanks KYPD38!

KeepYourPowderDry06 Dec 2018 11:39 p.m. PST

You are welcome. Last two from National Civil War Centre, Newark.

KeepYourPowderDry18 Apr 2019 11:28 p.m. PST


On display at the National Army Museum, gauntlet and more interestingly a fish scale buff leather upper arm protector (to be worn above the gauntlet) Can't remember seeing one of those on display anywhere else.

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