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Personal logo StoneMtnMinis Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2018 11:43 a.m. PST

Since this silly topic regularly shows up on the Plus Boards and usually results in several additions to the DH, a Poll.

A. Ban ALL discussion regarding global warming, true or not, as this is a gaming forum.
B. Allow discussion of global warming, true or not, only in the Blue Fez.
C. Have special global warming board, true or not, which is a free-fire zone with no moderation or control.
D. Lock the accounts of anyone who even mentions global warming, true or not, for a period of 6 months.
E. Keep it as it is as it is fun to see who gets DH'ed.

Have at it boys and girls.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2018 11:52 a.m. PST

I had a Poll a few years about banning global warming discussion, for much the same reasons you give. It failed.
There will always be those who think that TMP polls settle things for good and for all time. grin
I'm always amazed at how heated the "discussions" about anthropogenic climate change are on what is essentially an obscure tiny site allegedly dedicated to discussion of playing with toy soldiers. Then I had a Eureka moment when I realized that all important issues are settled on TMP. Toy soldiers are secondary.

mad monkey 111 Oct 2018 11:54 a.m. PST

B.

+1 Winston.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2018 11:55 a.m. PST

C. Free fire zone? Controlled by TMP? Seriously?
Ask those who were banned and locked out from the Blue Fez, and going back, to Current Affairs, Wargamers and Religion….

Ain't no such thing as free discussion under the TMP umbrella.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2018 12:00 p.m. PST

But, given the choices above, I prefer E.
It's always fun to poke a stick at the inmates in Bedlam. It's even more fun to see the "Free the Global Warming Five!" threads and read them whine when they get out.

Everyone knows the rules. I hardly ever turn anyone in, but I do wonder how long it will take before the Paddy Wagon (Irish slur…) comes for them.
They shouldn't be surprised.

Vigilant11 Oct 2018 12:00 p.m. PST

A or B it will fill up the DH anyway. Must say that I don't recall seeing any discussions on it on the general board in the past, but I would expect the usual comments from the usual suspects.

14Bore11 Oct 2018 12:07 p.m. PST

It's a DH bait, don't bite the apple

Thresher0111 Oct 2018 12:08 p.m. PST

That begs the question about "climate change".

Mister Muppet11 Oct 2018 12:16 p.m. PST

A: this is a site about miniatures.

ZULUPAUL Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2018 12:33 p.m. PST

B

CSherrange Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2018 12:38 p.m. PST

If you are going to talk about it, use it for future gaming scenarios, and cite things like the Military's own reports-

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Personal logo Sgt Slag Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2018 12:39 p.m. PST

A or B. TMP is about miniatures and gaming… Cheers!

Dynaman878911 Oct 2018 12:41 p.m. PST

If I were an admin (I'm not) I'd doghowse ya just for starting this thread. But I'm not so I won't.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2018 2:08 p.m. PST

If I ran TMP, I would nuke any and all Global Warming threads toot sweet.
I would not need permission from a poll to sweep up the trash.

Cyrus the Great11 Oct 2018 2:42 p.m. PST

E.

Personal logo mrwigglesworth Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2018 2:43 p.m. PST

B

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2018 4:02 p.m. PST

I would be more than happy to see it confined to The Blue Fez, particularly since I'm not a member. Especially if that meant that it would be immediately zapped from TMP proper.

But don't kid yourself that it would be a free for all unmoderated zone. More than one banned and locked ex TMPer made that mistake.
TMP doesn't encourage dissent. It never did.

The Beast Rampant11 Oct 2018 4:51 p.m. PST

Unless it involves your notion of the polar ice caps melting leading to rising sea levels leading to Kentucky having a coastline leading to all native inhabitants rapidly evolving into anthropomorphic Chocolate Labrador-people and where can I find those in 28mm-

-no.

A

14th NJ Vol Supporting Member of TMP11 Oct 2018 5:08 p.m. PST

A

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Oct 2018 5:35 p.m. PST

F. Discuss what you want in an appropriate board and follow Wheaton's Law.

Personal logo Silurian Supporting Member of TMP12 Oct 2018 6:43 a.m. PST

A or B

Legion 412 Oct 2018 7:19 a.m. PST

As far as global warming … check back with me in about 100 years or so … old fart

Andrew Walters12 Oct 2018 8:11 a.m. PST

As appealing as A is I have to go with E. The Plus Boards are not a gaming forum, they're a whatever forum, that's why they're "plus".

Climate change is the topic du jour – well, not "of the day", since it's been non-stop for over twenty years now – but every news article, whether politics, economics, crime, fashion, all seem to head back to climate change. So of *course* people are going to want to talk about it. It's far harder to ignore GW mentions *outside* of TMP than inside.

So let people talk, and let them get DH'ed if they want. What's the argument for banning the topic? That's it's talked about a lot? That people are passionate enough to get in trouble? Those are reasons for banning speech? To constrain the topic there needs to be a reason it's hurting TMP.

The only possible such reason I can imagine is that people who could talk about miniatures are enticed away by the chance to quote their favorite statistics, and thus having burned up the time they can spare for TMP never get around to asking whether in 1943 its Olive Drab 107 on the uniform and Olive Drab 507 on the helmet or Olive Drab 507 goes on the uniform and Olive Drab 107 on the helmet. The counter argument is that if they really care more about carbon glaciers than correcting the colors in Osprey War Animals WA 2: Messenger Pigeons of the Western Front then maybe it's better to keep them out of the gaming areas. I'm not sure I would agree with either of those arguments, but there they are.

BTW:

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Personal logo ACWBill Supporting Member of TMP12 Oct 2018 10:03 a.m. PST

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Personal logo Florida Tory Supporting Member of TMP12 Oct 2018 10:16 a.m. PST

F. this is ridiculous

(I mean the poll, not the topic.)

Andrew Walters12 Oct 2018 11:56 a.m. PST

How is the poll ridiculous? I can think of a couple different ways it *could* be, which one are you asserting?

Aethelflaeda was framed12 Oct 2018 3:32 p.m. PST

E. If one cannot enter climate change as a possible cause of post apocalyptic scenarios they might end up not looking very "realistic" and way too much like Warhammer games. We will legally only be able to fight zombies created by voodoo priests and not viruses here.

Climate change isn't political, it's a scientific hypothesis with an almost universal consensus of scientists in support of its validity. Perhaps some conspiracy theory minded Americans think it is a political stance or hoax. DH those guys when they get annoying.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP12 Oct 2018 8:37 p.m. PST

"Perhaps some conspiracy theory minded Americans think it is a political stance or hoax"

LOL. Clearly someone else thinks it's political or about nationalities.

Dan

Rallynow Supporting Member of TMP12 Oct 2018 10:21 p.m. PST

How about just don't click on the topic. No one is forcing you to read them. Yet you read them and then complain they are there. I have never seen this topic outside the plus boards. Isn't that the point of the plus boards?

Thresher0113 Oct 2018 8:52 p.m. PST

It's a tax the rich Americans plan.

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