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skaran08 Oct 2018 10:09 p.m. PST

I have been putting together some Sumerians using Eureka's Sumerians and was wondering how people would base these for Hail Caesar. Would the Sumerian spearmen be a 4 rank phalanx with the front rank as shield carriers? Or is there some other arrangement.
Also would people put standard bearers in the phalanx if so where or separate or not with these units at all?

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP09 Oct 2018 5:41 a.m. PST

Your plan sounds good

I don't usually put a standard bearer in a phalanx but the one or two I have are in the rear ranks

skaran09 Oct 2018 11:00 a.m. PST

Looks like I will go with 40 figures for each phalanx then with 30 long spear men and 10 shield carriers for the front rank. Should make quite an impressive unit.

battle master10 Oct 2018 2:07 a.m. PST

I wouldn't base the Sumerian spear men that deep. In Hail Caesar, 2 ranks are sufficient as this represents 4-6 ranks deep which is how long spear would be employed. The phalanx of 4 bases deep is for the much longer pike that would have the reach.

Marcus Brutus10 Oct 2018 10:31 a.m. PST

We play Impetus and a double rank unit in that system would reflect historical depth greater than 6 ranks. So a hoplite unit with 12 ranks depth is two stands and a phalangite unit of 16 ranks is three stands. How does it work in HC?

skaran11 Oct 2018 7:58 p.m. PST

The Eureka spearmen basically have pikes as they look to be 12-14 feet long. So it depends on whether you think the Sumerian's used long spears of pikes. I went for pike length weapons as that is what Eureka supplied. I don't know what archeological evidence there is to support either my thought is that both lengths were used but that is my opinion. The four rank structure does allow me to use all the poses in one unit too.

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