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"The Battle That Kept the Chinese Out of Central Asia" Topic

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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse06 Oct 2018 9:28 p.m. PST

"It's easy to understand why the battle of Talas in 751 between the Abbasid Caliphate's Arab-Persian army and the Chinese army is often said to be one of the most important battles in Central Asian history. It was, as James A. Millward wrote in his 2007 history of Xinjiang, the "first and last meeting of Arab and Chinese armies." For many it marks a decisive point in history–"barely noticed by contemporary chroniclers" wrote Svat Soucek–which decided whether Central Asia would come under the influence of the Muslim world or the Chinese.

The battle of Talas itself decided very little, but its timing was critical….."
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Personal logo oldbob Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2018 10:06 p.m. PST

Educational, thank you for sharing!

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse07 Oct 2018 3:09 p.m. PST

A votre service mon ami!. (smile)


Lion in the Stars07 Oct 2018 9:03 p.m. PST

That actually sounds like it'd be an interesting battle to play!

John Edmundson08 Oct 2018 2:04 a.m. PST

Back in 2015 a guy I know, in an online rather than biblical sense, did a pseudo-refight of Talas. They set the terrain and, as best they could, organised the armies from what we know, which I believe is very little. Since the numbers were unclear and probably grossly exaggerated, they used equal point values. Sadly, some horrible rolls by the Abassids and a poor showing by their Tibetan allies meant there was no way the Chinese' Turkic allies were going to defect to a losing cause so the historical result could not be achieved. The T'ang won an overwhelming victory. Great fun was had by all.


Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse08 Oct 2018 11:13 a.m. PST

Glad you enjoyed it too my friends!.


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