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Achtung Minen06 Oct 2018 4:30 p.m. PST

Does anyone know where I might find the 65mm Mle 1906 or the 75mm Mle 1919 Schneider mountain guns in 15mm scale?

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2018 7:09 p.m. PST

Irregular's 15mm "Really Useful Guns" range is always worth taking a look at for some oddball stuff. They also might have something in their "Balkan Wars" range. Good luck.

Grelber06 Oct 2018 8:09 p.m. PST

To the best of my knowledge, neither is available just now.

Burns Miniatures sells 15mm Greek WWII figures through Templar Miniatures: link Unfortunately, at this point, they only have infantry, machine guns and scouts. Burns 28mm range does include the 65mm gun, so there is some hope that you could write and encourage them to ask Burns to expand their 15mm range to include these two guns.

The Schneiders were the most common gun in the Greek artillery batteries, but some divisions used other guns.

VIII Division had Skoda 75mm guns (An Austro-Hungarian WWI design also used by the Germans in WWII, so you can find these from the Flames of War people, among other sources). Since VIII Division held much of the Albanian front during the start of the war, I've opted to model them.

XII Division and XIII Division used the Schneider-Danglis 75mm gun, a pre-WWI Greek design. Once Schneider completed the Greek production run, they offered this to other countries, and the Russians bought it, but changed it to a 76.2mm gun, which was still in use as an infantry gun with the Soviets in the early part of WWII. These are available in the FoW Soviet line.

The Cavalry Division used some M1897 French 75mm guns.

Hope this helps!

Grelber

Achtung Minen07 Oct 2018 8:30 a.m. PST

Thanks for the ideas so far! I have read that the Skoda was not really used in direct fire roles, and since I am using these for IABSM, the only guns that will be on the table are those that were converted for anti-tank weapons and the 65mm mountain guns (which were used in direct fire roles). You might have more information about that, though!

I wasn't able to find the Schneider-Danglis in 15mm… do you have a direct link?

Grelber07 Oct 2018 11:39 a.m. PST

Great. Can't find it now. Sorry. Anyway, it was known as the 76-09 in Imperial Russian service.

I found a little more information on the 75mm 1919 Schneider. It was used by the Poles, Yugoslavs and Paraguayans. I didn't see it in the Polish list at the Battlefront website, but other people who do Polish troops may have made it. Khurasan makes a 15mm range of figures for the Chaco War of the 1930s. for link While they only seem to include infantry, they might be talked into doing artillery.

I see the Greek 19th Mechanized Division used portee Skoda 75mm guns. I don't know what truck they were mounted on, though the Greeks had a bunch of Italian trucks.

There were 75mm guns in the fixed defenses north of Thessalonica ( Metaxas Line ) , which could be used in the direct fire role.

Something like 90,000 75mm HE shells were converted to AT shells, many for use in the M1919 Schneiders. 50,000 were made before the war and another 40,000 were made during the war, so it wounds like there was adequate 75mm AT ammunition.

Grelber

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