| Banana Man | 05 Oct 2018 12:02 p.m. PST |
Been looking at the wonderful models from Tabletop World, but they look more suitable for fantasy, rather than historical. link Does anyone use them for historical gaming? |
GildasFacit  | 05 Oct 2018 1:14 p.m. PST |
Lovely but pure fantasy, no buildings built like that would stand for more than a few weeks before collapsing. |
| Banana Man | 05 Oct 2018 1:26 p.m. PST |
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| 45thdiv | 05 Oct 2018 1:28 p.m. PST |
Well, I think the cottages, especially the latest one looks nice. I use it for dark ages. link |
| Winston Smith | 05 Oct 2018 2:12 p.m. PST |
Fantasy. Definitely Bree. |
 Parzival  | 05 Oct 2018 2:41 p.m. PST |
It would be a fantasy to think that I could afford one… |
| Winston Smith | 05 Oct 2018 9:37 p.m. PST |
First thing I thought of when I saw the cottage was Granny Weatherwax, or Maggie the Frog. |
| Benvartok | 05 Oct 2018 9:44 p.m. PST |
Maybe for historical fantasy after a real bank robbery. |
| Cerdic | 06 Oct 2018 10:53 a.m. PST |
Just fantasy. Take the cottage that 45thdiv linked to. Timber frame with stone walls? In the real world it's nonsense. If you have access to stone as a building material you just use that. Stone walls are great. Last forever. There are stone buildings around here that are hundreds of years old. Timber frames are used to support the walls when they are made of something too flimsy to stand up by itself. Usually some variant of wattle and daub. |
| robert piepenbrink | 06 Oct 2018 12:57 p.m. PST |
Fantasy. The fantasy middle ages are much more prosperous and ornate than the historical ones, and Cerdic's right about construction and materials. (Yes, of course I'd use such buildings in historical miniatures games if I had them. But I'd never buy them with historical games in mind.) |
| Asteroid X | 12 Oct 2018 6:54 a.m. PST |
Timber frames are used for just that – framing. The size of the timber frames has been shown to be large enough that they do not burn. Wattle and daub are the inner frame of mud/plaster walls (ie early drywall but far superior with a full inner framing instead of every 16" like modern construction). All of these buildings would stand and be solid. However, due to the complex nature of the framing (curved, overhanging) it would be extremely difficult (time consuming) to do. Why curve a frame when it can be straight and then all the connectors will be of the same size rather than each subsequent connecting board will have to be custom cut and measured and fitted. No one has time for that. Even with modern cutting methods (ie power tools) go ask construction workers if they would want to spend the time needed to build that. They may say yes, if they know their pay will be based on the amount of hours spent as opposed to by the job/contract. Take a look at period houses in German, Switzerland, Russia, Scandinavia and you will some similar structures, but nothing with the fantasy over exaggerations. Some of the Norse/Rus/Ukranian wood buildings are jaw dropping when you visit them in person and see the amount of work that went into cutting, fitting and especially carving the wood. |
