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olicana02 Oct 2018 8:52 a.m. PST

I thought I'd post this cautionary tale under the 'getting started' banner.

Sometimes you realise that you've made a mistake. Sometimes you realise half way through a project and wonder if you should continue or make the required change before it becomes impossible.

I've just bitten the bullet and re-based over 500 infantry.



I've also discovered that i've bought a lot of stuff I'm not going to use. This lot….


…. due to bad, or rather ill thought, planning. Usually my odds and sods at the end of a project add up to a handful of figures. There are over 150 in that box, nearly £200.00 GBP worth.

bsrlee02 Oct 2018 8:59 a.m. PST

So, time for a Swiss brigade? French uniforms but red coats.

stecal Supporting Member of TMP02 Oct 2018 9:18 a.m. PST

Concur. I like the look of 15mm frontage per man for 28mm. 20mm per man looks like open order. Plus, like you found, you can fit a whole lot more units on the table.

Old Wolfman02 Oct 2018 9:27 a.m. PST

I've been rebasing some of my 15mm Nappers for Grand Armee.

olicana02 Oct 2018 10:03 a.m. PST

Hi bsrlee,

Already have those figures in the pile. I just need 48 French grenadiers (for the converged battalions of) and the French will be bought. No point doing more, it will be difficult getting all 672 French infantry onto the table as it is.

The French infantry list:
8 Legere battalions (including 1 Legion Du Midi, 1 Legion Hannovrienne, 1 Legion Irlandais).
14 Ligne battalions (including 2 Polish, 2 Swiss, 1 Paris Municipal Guard, 2 Nassau).
2 Converged Grenadier battalions. (Both still to buy)

Louie N02 Oct 2018 10:31 a.m. PST

Well they all look great.

The information beeds is a very neat idea

Redblack02 Oct 2018 11:57 a.m. PST

Suggest doing a German force say Saxon or Westphalian . They could be either French allies or opponents in 1813/1814.

Yellow Admiral02 Oct 2018 12:21 p.m. PST

I sympathize with the rebasing conundrum. I've been through this a few times. Sometimes what seems right at first just doesn't work out well.

The new scheme certainly looks nice. Napoleonic soldiers should be standing close together in large numbers.

More generally, 4 bases is an excellent unit size really the best compromise between the advantages of multi-base and single-base schemes yet invented, which is probably why there are more rules sets all the time resorting to this pattern. Units aren't too big or unwieldy, but can still depict of all the typical horse & musket formations, and with enough miniatures on board can still look grand enough for "big battle" gaming.

- Ix

wrgmr102 Oct 2018 12:29 p.m. PST

Rebasing is a pain in the petut, but they look really great!

14Bore02 Oct 2018 1:03 p.m. PST

Build what you have, extra figures are not so bad.

Winston Smith02 Oct 2018 1:39 p.m. PST

"The end of a project"? What's that?
That's 150 figures you won't have to buy in the second wave.

davbenbak03 Oct 2018 4:10 a.m. PST

So did you position the flank company figures as they would appear when the battalion is in line formation (four figures in two ranks on the end) or as they would appear when in column (three figures across the front or rear of the base)? That's what vexes me and I use three bases per unit.

olicana03 Oct 2018 6:00 a.m. PST

I had to compromise somewhere. I did four at the end. When in column, I will put the base with standard left front with the grenadier stand right front.

Not right, but for me, it's when the companies are wrongly positioned when in line that irks. For some reason it's more obvious.

I guess the only way to get it right every time is to individually base everything and put the figures in movement trays, re-positioning every time the unit changes formation. I can't even imagine ever doing this.

mghFond03 Oct 2018 6:34 a.m. PST

I think your decision is far better than individual basing of figs then using movement trays, ugh.

Yet another great collection from you (of course).

Black Hat Miniatures03 Oct 2018 6:56 a.m. PST

I think they look better based the new way.

I am going through the same thinking about my 54mm Napoleonics as the current 80mm x 80mm bases take up too much space – especially if the unit is in column.

I looking at trying dropping to 12 figures a unit (from 16 and retaining 8 figures for cavalry) and basing them on 60mm x 40mm with 3 figures to a base.

This is actually the same (but double base sizes)as my FPW 25mm collection which I rebased from 60mm square basing to 60mm x 20mm bases to reduce the column size (also nearly doubled the number of units I had) and I think it looks better and is more flexible for using on a normal 6 x 4 table.

It meant I could comfortably play a 17 unit a side game in 6 x 4 without struggling for space…


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