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Joe Legan24 Sep 2018 6:00 p.m. PST

Pictures of some of my playtests.


Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP26 Sep 2018 2:20 a.m. PST

I would like to see the stats you eventually decide on, I think this could float my boat!

Legion 426 Sep 2018 7:12 a.m. PST

Looks great ! I did 1 to 1 scale wargames in (West) Germany during the Cold War. But fortunately it was only "wargames" … evil grin

Joe Legan26 Sep 2018 4:48 p.m. PST

You will get to see them all. Talked to Rich about an article in the next special. For now try a Leopard 1A at
11/13 and a modernized T-55 at 8/11.
Thanks. Were those rock drills or something more substantial?
Have seen pictures of pretty elaborate set ups with sand tables.



Legion 427 Sep 2018 7:43 a.m. PST

Generally I'm referring to actual wargames/Field Training Exercises/etc. 1 to 1 scale meaning real tanks, troops, etc. ! evil grin E.g. REFORGER, TEAM SPIRIT, etc.

But at times in many places we did use plastic toys, GHQ, etc., to do a "chalk talk" sort of thing. Using sand tables etc. Even at Ft. Benning, GA we had a vacuformed terrain model of the NTC/Ft. Irwin, CA made by Training Aids on main post.

And used GHQ models to represent our Mech Bde, a USSR Tank Bn and MRR. I got to order those directly from GHQ at the Bde Cdr's request. Then the Bde Intel guys got to mount and paint platoons of all of them.

And my fellow Officers & I "played" with them a number of times ! evil grin As big Bde Leadership exercises. To prep for our deployment(s) to the NTC and other possible scenarios we may be called upon to execute. Was pretty useful IMO …

Joe Legan27 Sep 2018 2:12 p.m. PST

Most excellent! I see you meant actual 1 to 1 scale! Very cool.
When stationed in Germany I was seeing a lot of tankers with back pain so the battalion commander invited me up to take a look. [ Think he also wanted to ensure his folks had ready access to the orthopaedic surgeon.] I was like a kid in a candy store. I crawled all around the tank then we drove it to the range and fired off a bunch of rounds. Most excellent day and gave me a better appreciation of the rigors of the crewmen's job. I promised him a free operation but he never took me up on the offer!


Legion 428 Sep 2018 3:09 p.m. PST

thumbs up I'm sure they appreciated your assistance. You can get banged around a bit bouncing about in an AFV, jumping off a vehicle, parachuting, sliding down a rope from a chopper, etc., etc. evil grin I have degenerative arthritis of the spine, had a hip replacement last year, wear those pressure socks, heal supports and custom made inserts for my feet. wink

Joe Legan29 Sep 2018 10:33 a.m. PST

Yes Sir. I try to explain to people that taking care of soldiers is akin to taking care of professional athletes.


Legion 430 Sep 2018 7:39 a.m. PST

Very much so ! And at times it could be a matter of life or death ! frown

ACW Gamer Supporting Member of TMP06 Oct 2018 9:01 a.m. PST

Can anyone tell me the difference between GF9 tanks vs. What a tanker? Trying to decide which way to go for Cold War small actions

Joe Legan07 Oct 2018 10:32 a.m. PST

Well, first What a Tanker is only for WW II at the moment. An enterprising lad has created rules and stats for the cold war and called his creation Cold War Tanker. This variant is suppose to be released in a Lardie supplement.
GF 9 Tanks for the Cold War is to be released in Nov so that too is not out yet. Both are quick play lite wargames. GFs is more like the star wars X-wing game. You can have characters and upgrades to your tanks. What a Tanker is about dice management. Both have videos about how to play I believe.


ACW Gamer Supporting Member of TMP08 Oct 2018 5:30 p.m. PST

Thank you, Joe

Joe Legan09 Oct 2018 3:06 p.m. PST

You're welcome. Oh and GF Tanks should have helicopters. The enterprising lad couldn't figure out how to satisfactorily include them in Cold War Tanker though they would be cool.
Obviously I am biased towards Cold War Tanker but I think both will be fun.



Tired Mammal10 Oct 2018 7:55 a.m. PST

What are the differences for Cold war Tanker over WW2?

I would expect that it would be even less forgiving than late war WW2 where first (accurate) shot tends to be fatal. Unlike early war where there is more of a battering down to submission type of thing going on.

Joe Legan11 Oct 2018 11:07 a.m. PST

Yes. More lethal. Unless a latest mbt not Much battering. Also adds atgms
Battering also occurs when recon elements meet. A lot of fun


Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP05 Nov 2018 4:14 p.m. PST

I have just finished sorting some stats for tanks in the Arab Israeli wars 1948-73, though just as WaT ignores A/T guns, I have left out Sagger missiles!
If anyone is interested, just E-Mail me at and I will send you what I have done!

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