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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse18 Sep 2018 8:41 p.m. PST


"I have a little announcement to make about a little project I have been working on with the chaps over at Stand to Games.

As of this evening the scenario book 'O'er the Hills', by me, covering the early Peninsular War period 1808 to 1809 has been launched on Kickstarter…."




Full Review here



Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse19 Sep 2018 10:30 a.m. PST

Any interest?…. (smile)


Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP19 Sep 2018 10:36 a.m. PST

It must be me, but I followed the link, expecting something to promote investment in some new figures and castings. I did not understand what was being offered in exchange for pledges.

Since you posted this, not the producer, can you explain?

I can well understand how busy you are however, we would be lost without you. But it might explain the lack of any response

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse19 Sep 2018 11:01 a.m. PST

This is the link of the Kickstarter….


At the end of the page you found….

"Riesgos y desafíos

As a Company Stand to Games do not envisage any risks to this project. The rules are written and the printing company identified and used on our successful Forager and Rise and Fight Again project. We have always delivered on our promises through Kickstarter.

Más información sobre el concepto de responsabilidad en Kickstarter"

If you click on the line "Mas información sobre el … etc" you can made your questions…

Hope it helps my good friend.


Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP19 Sep 2018 11:05 a.m. PST

Yes, Now I understand. many thanks.

The second link makes much more sense.

The first had nice pictures

18th Century Guy Supporting Member of TMP19 Sep 2018 11:27 a.m. PST

I'm always hesitant to get into new kickstarter projects. Just not sure that I'd end up using them.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP19 Sep 2018 12:47 p.m. PST

I can understand the idea for model figures. Much investment in models, castings, metal etc for figures no one might want. Funding up front must encourage folk like Three Armies who are just getting started.

As one who does not throw dice, I am not sure the same investment is needed to create rules and Orders of Battle (the latter relatively easy to access, the former must rely on your opponents agreeing them).

I think I mean to say there is nothing wrong with legit Kickstarters. Your investment is protected, no product…. no cost, but you may end with something that disappoints, is not as good as promised, or not what you really wanted in the end anyway.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse20 Sep 2018 11:01 a.m. PST

No mention my good friend!. (smile)


Lion in the Stars20 Sep 2018 4:21 p.m. PST

Printing, well, nice printing (color pages and hardcover) is surprisingly expensive.

So I can see running a kickstarter to afford a better cost-per-unit run size. For example, it's ~$15 a hat for Navy unit ballcaps if you're only ordering 200 like a submarine usually does. If you order 5,000+ like a carrier does, you can get the same ballcaps for less than $5 USD a hat.

Though if I were the Author of such a project, I'd make sure I said that in the setup. "I'm spending $5,000 USD of my own as a floor number, but that doesn't let me print but a couple hundred books. If we get to X dollars, I will be able to afford a print run of 1000, and if we can get to Y dollars, the print run will be 5000. Above that point, the cost per book roughly flattens out, so getting to 2*Y pledged will make a 11,000 unit run."

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP20 Sep 2018 11:01 p.m. PST

Very well put and a lesson to all. It is the art of communication in selling anything….

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse21 Sep 2018 9:30 a.m. PST



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