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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian15 Sep 2018 9:14 a.m. PST

You were asked – TMP link

So in media during the cold war the 'go to' baddies were Commies (and Nazis). Then in the 90s, it was gangs and terrorists (and Nazis); then after 2001, it was terrorists as far as you could see! (And Nazis) But I've watched Sleepy Hollow where the redcoats are literally demons. And I've only watched two episodes of Outlander but we've already met a rape aficionado Captain of Dragoons. So is the next big bad redcoats? (and Nazis)

49% said no
14% said yes

randy51 Supporting Member of TMP15 Sep 2018 11:06 a.m. PST

Well, just based on my visits to the Yahoo homepage to log into my mail, I was wondering if the "New Baddies" were Deleted by Moderator, Republicans in general, and anything conservative. There's more mud & dirt being slung there, all in one direction, than I've seen since our neighborhood dirt clod fights 60 years ago.

Cacique Caribe15 Sep 2018 11:28 a.m. PST

LOL. It's the new "tolerance" hive culture. They tolerate all opinions as long as they all flow with those of the herd.

Dan

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP15 Sep 2018 12:46 p.m. PST

Last time someone tolerated facism, 65 000 000 died a few years later.

Gear Pilot15 Sep 2018 1:37 p.m. PST

Thanks for the fine example of respecting the opinions of others Mr. Gunfreak.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP15 Sep 2018 2:07 p.m. PST

I don't respect facist and neither did millions of others, they were called the allied soldiers.

boggler15 Sep 2018 3:04 p.m. PST

+1 Gunfreak

Katzbalger15 Sep 2018 4:21 p.m. PST

The problem comes about when people confuse "intolerance" with "that person doesn't agree with me!"

Rob

randy51 Supporting Member of TMP15 Sep 2018 8:25 p.m. PST

Cute little cartoons but last time I checked I didn't see any Hitler's or goose stepping Nazis over running America. Deleted by Moderator

Vigilant16 Sep 2018 3:33 a.m. PST

The Dawghouse is going to fill up pretty quickly. Katzbalger is right. Too many people, especially on the internet, is that they treat anyone who disagrees with them as the most extreme kind of enemy. All sides in politics, race, religion are guilty of this and there seems to be no end to it.

altfritz16 Sep 2018 6:51 a.m. PST

What Gunfreak said. Deleted by Moderator

axabrax16 Sep 2018 7:00 a.m. PST

Sleepy Hollow is what, 20years old? And the Horseman was Hessian, not a Redcoat, so the premise is a bit weak. And if you're going to bring this up how could you not mention evil Tarleton clone in The Patriot? Recently if anyone has watched Frontier on Netflix the Hudson Bay Co is pretty evil, although not as evil as Jason Momoa's acting. So there's a precedent, but the "new nazis?" Naaah.

Walking Sailor16 Sep 2018 7:41 a.m. PST

One month ago, to commemorate the anniversary of Charlottesville, a rally was held. Since they were banned from going back to Charlottesville, they went to Washington, D.C. (Either way ,to me, it's local news.) About two dozen demonstrators were meet by, among hundreds of others, about two hundred counter-demonstrators, some wearing helmets, some carrying weapons (bats, cudgels, &c.), all were masked to conceal their identities, and all wore Black Shirts.
Everyone on this forum should know their history. The translation of "Black Shirt" to German is "Schwarzes Shirt" and that is abbreviated SS.

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
Ye shall know them by their fruits.

Matt. 7:15-16

randy51 Supporting Member of TMP16 Sep 2018 10:50 a.m. PST

Pardon my confusion but your post left me wondering who was who. Were the "two dozen demonstrators" antifascists and the "hundreds of other" counter demonstrators racists, fascists, Nazis, etc. or was it the other way around?

Cacique Caribe16 Sep 2018 8:36 p.m. PST

Randy51

I think the hundreds of others the group calling themselves the anti fascists were the ones who were masked, armed and claimed to be local, but were most likely "flash-mobbed" in from all over the country and perhaps even up north (by some of their accents and idioms). MoveOn.org and similar networks have professional protesters and more than a few teams that blend into the protesters to spark the violence. That's how today's thugs work.*

Feel free to look up some of the violent masked antifa who turned out to be professors, including the recent case of the "bike lock" ethics professor (Eric Clanton) from California who has been identified initiating violence on a number of otherwise peaceful protests, usually by attacking unsuspecting targets from behind with a steel bicycle lock. He usually picks people with no protection on their heads. He has crushed at least two skulls that way. They all seem to have top notch legal representation who offer them their services pro bono, and appear before sympathetic judges, and thus end up getting probation or nothing.

But in this country everyone is still allowed to gather peacefully and express their ideas. Ironically these days it is usually the "anti fascists" (Antifa) who selectively stifle free speech and then spark the violence, which usually makes collateral damage of the young useful idiot that they recruited to their own side. The intentional "collateral damage" usually works in favor of the antifa, because they typically have cameras at the ready waiting for just such a response from their enemies and for the "money shots" of casualties that make everyone else look like the instigator. Occasionally someone else, like a simple spectator or a police officer, will offer longer footage that really tells the story, but by then the narrative immediately uploaded by the Antifa has become the accepted one.

Now, if any of you others reading this take my statements above to mean that I'm defending the fascists and their ideas you are nuts and really reaching too far, and maliciously so.

To the antifa, everyone who isn't part of their group is labeled "fascist" at one time or another, even on each other and their other Leftist associates. "Fascists" and "Nazis" are the generic labels they use on anyone who doesn't share 100% of their views, 100% of the time.

Dan
* It's how the real fascists operated back in Germany (Nazis) and to a much lesser degree in Italy and Spain. However, the ones using fascist tactics today are mostly the "anti-fascists", just as Churchill and others predicted years ago.

Walking Sailor17 Sep 2018 6:18 a.m. PST

Hitler wrote that he had chosen recognizable symbology (sun wheel or broken cross) and bright colors (black, white, and red).
There were two dozen people, some of whom had adopted Nazi regalia. They were anti-semitic, but if pressed, many would deny that their leader (der Fuhrer) had effected a sixth and final solution to that problem. I don't blame them for failing to read his book, it's a crushing bore.
Fascism is a 'collusion' between government and industry.
There were hundreds of people (including the afore mentioned self-styled anti-fascists who dressed as the SS but lacked the courage to show their faces) whose most recent elected leader had done just that (e.g. Solyndra, & Ener1).
While claiming to be "progressives" (the new term for "socialist") they call others Nazi apparently ignorant of the original German name: Nationalsozialistische (trans: National Socialists).
Discussing German history is acceptable, discussing current political events on this forum is not (The Ten Year Rule). I could continue to draw parallels between German history and the current activities of a certain current political faction, but out of deference to our host, I will not. I leave it to you to simply turn to any accurate accounting of the news and judge the actions, not the rhetoric, of the actors.

Legion 417 Sep 2018 6:32 a.m. PST

Call me crazy[and I probably am !?] but I have very little tolerance for the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Mao, UBL, Al Quada, ISIS, the Taliban, BH, AS, Hezbollah, IRGC, Neo-Nazis, KKK, etc., etc. Of course they'd most likely would have very little tolerance of me … so … evil grin

deephorse17 Sep 2018 9:15 a.m. PST

Very little tolerance? Surely you should have absolutely no tolerance of them?

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian17 Sep 2018 10:58 a.m. PST

There is a difference between tolerance of beliefs and tolerance of people.

Cacique Caribe17 Sep 2018 3:16 p.m. PST

Wow, well said.

Dan

mandt217 Sep 2018 7:02 p.m. PST

Zombies are always fashionable to slaughter. As are orcs and goblins.

Aliens who want to eat us, or steal our women are also fair game.

No guilt or tolerance issues.

deephorse18 Sep 2018 12:52 a.m. PST

There is a difference between tolerance of beliefs and tolerance of people.

Didn't say there wasn't, but how does that apply to the likes of the people/groups that Legion listed? Oh that Stalin guy, can't stand his policies, but meet him over afternoon tea and he's a nice chap really. Saying you have little tolerance for Islamic State implies that you actually have some tolerance for them. Now that I find astounding.

Cacique Caribe18 Sep 2018 7:11 a.m. PST

Does tolerance mean mingling and socializing? If so I must have some really serious tolerance issues, specially with people who don't wear deodorant or who use very bad grammar. :)

When was the last time any of us brought a drunk or drugged homeless person over to our home. I don't think tolerance is the same thing.

Dan

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Legion 418 Sep 2018 7:15 a.m. PST

Very little tolerance? Surely you should have absolutely no tolerance of them?
Yes, I was trying to be less "aggressive" in my post. I have been criticized in the past for being so intolerant, etc.

Of course I would have preferred to have said I have absolutely No tolerance for those types that I listed. As that is way I really truly feel. But as happens often someone will say something about they are God's creations too, etc., etc., and all that P.C. type of drivel, Bleeped text, Bleeped text, etc.

While in reality they should be terminated with extreme prejudice and no mercy or quarter given or prisoners taken … Especially terrorists, radical, fundamentalists, jihadi types … Generally …

peace

Cacique Caribe18 Sep 2018 7:20 a.m. PST

I treat a person who wears a White Power t-shirt exactly the same as one who wears a Black Power t-shirt. Exactly the same.

I don't like race supremacists of any kind, but I don't go around provoking them or hunting them down. If I start down that road I would have to apply the violence equally, without exception, or not at all. It would be a road to ethical madness.

Now, if a person who actively partook in the slaughter of innocents were in the same room or establishment with me … well, that would be an entirely different matter. It's never happened to me before, so I really don't know what I would do.

Dan

Legion 418 Sep 2018 7:22 a.m. PST

Agree with all that Dan … but my feelings about terrorist jihadi types still stands …

Cacique Caribe18 Sep 2018 7:27 a.m. PST

Terrorists go out of the way to specifically target only the innocent and defenseless. Never those who can fight back. They are truly scum.

I would love to see more games with terrorists being cornered and put down by people who can fight back. That would be true no-guilt gaming there.

Dan

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian19 Sep 2018 9:52 a.m. PST

Didn't say there wasn't, but how does that apply to the likes of the people/groups that Legion listed?

Still our brothers and sisters, right?

Legion 419 Sep 2018 3:19 p.m. PST

Weeell … if they want to kill us … not so much … evil grin

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