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LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP08 Sep 2018 11:32 a.m. PST

A pack of four Waffen SS snipers in 20mm due next month.



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wrgmr108 Sep 2018 2:37 p.m. PST

Nice work Leon!

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP08 Sep 2018 3:04 p.m. PST

Agreed!

Silurian08 Sep 2018 7:52 p.m. PST

Hmm, my original post has disappeared – bugged off to another thread I suppose…

Anyway, great figures! You're a very prolific sculptor.

JARROVIAN Supporting Member of TMP09 Sep 2018 2:22 a.m. PST

Sorry Leon, no sniper worth his salt fires without the back of his left hand supported by something, too much sight wobble, magnified by the scope, otherwise.

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Sep 2018 2:50 a.m. PST

JARROVIAN,
Thanks for that.
Think your taking modern practise/equipment/ranges and putting on to WW2. Having made some modern snipers many years back when I started doing WW2 ones I did them with the left hand braced on the sling only to find on proper research ( rather than just assumption)that it wasnt a technique that seems to be used at the time.
If there is a convienent bit of something to brace on they will of course but these figures dont have the luxury of having a portable bit of trench embasure or wall handy, thats an addition to be added by the user.

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Fred Cartwright09 Sep 2018 10:55 a.m. PST

Very nice Leon!

Kungfucius11 Sep 2018 10:54 a.m. PST

Beautiful. I will have them as soon as they are out

MiniPigs Supporting Member of TMP12 Sep 2018 4:56 p.m. PST

What company makes these?

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP12 Sep 2018 10:01 p.m. PST

They are part of the Adler Miniatures 20mm range, or will be,
home.clara.net/adlermin
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MiniPigs Supporting Member of TMP20 Sep 2018 8:32 a.m. PST

You make collar patch transfers for the 20mm Germans!!!!?

You really must be mad…I love it!

It's worth it just to see what my painters would have to say about trying to put them on.

You have examples of what they look like on the figures?

Also, what figures are these roughly equivalent to in scale? AB Miniatures or Elheim or SHQ or something else?

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP20 Sep 2018 9:07 a.m. PST

Normally Id use the search function to find some older posts but as you probably know its not working.

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These are the SS decals applied to some of the very nice Xan figures.
They are designed to fit in with the general AB look, there are comparison pics around but this one I can find at the moment.
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Yes the decals are small but with a little paitence and the correct decal softner etc no problem for the average modeller and for me the end result is worth it.
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MiniPigs Supporting Member of TMP20 Sep 2018 9:49 a.m. PST

Yeah, they look terrific.

I never saw that Xan figure on their site, are they holding out on me?

Lion in the Stars20 Sep 2018 7:45 p.m. PST

Wow! The snipers look good, and the painted w/ decals looks great, Leon!

Are you saying that the snipers of WW2 didn't use their rifle sling to stabilize their left arms? Wrapping the arm in the sling and then pulling the arm towards you until the sling is tight? (Hand goes from inside the sling up and out, then back around)

Here's a pic:

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Sep 2018 1:33 a.m. PST

Lion in the Stars,
Never wise to be definitive about ANYTHING to do with history but nothing I've ever read or seen suggests that the technique was used and in such situations I tend to go for the 'dont do it option' if there are viable alternatives that mean I can swerve the problem lol. Where I havent looked in detail is Pacific war sources, particularly the Marines as its not a major interest of mine. So time for our American cousins to hit the books lol
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wargamingUSA21 Sep 2018 8:27 a.m. PST

Hi Leon, et al… I can't speak to other nation's troops but the USMC did employ the "sling support" as standard practice. It was prevalent even at the civilian-military shooting matches held at Camp Perry, etc… during the 1920s and 30s. (The only reason I know this is my grandfather was active in this whole arena.) BTW the sniper figs are really great.

Cheers,
Bill

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Sep 2018 7:28 a.m. PST

Hello Bill,
Not a a suprise that the Marines might have used it,( less dogma and more emphasis on experience in the USMC is the feeling I get………) somewhere in the back of my mind theres is a 'ding' that says Ive seen a Marine using the sling that way but memory deosnt tell me where/when I saw it and if its Nam or WW2.
I took the chance of having time away and flicked through a few books and couldnt find any pics or mention in them of the method being used.
L

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