"2-Rank Infantry Carrots verses Artillery Canister " Topic

Enemy Orange Infantry carrots have formed up into 2 ranks but are mowed down by canister.

The cannon is my "Mini Cannon Technologies" M6 Field Cannon which normally fires a .177 caliber BB cannonball.

This time, the cannon is firing approximately 165 small #12 shot pellets.

The results are impressive! All 14 carrots had at least one hit.

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I earlier had posted a video of the little cannon shooting a BB cannon ball into 3 ranks of enemy carrots.
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Just having fun.

God bless,
John T.

I have to love this practical research.

Interesting research John.

That was fun.

When the general said, "where are those blasted carrots?" I don't think he meant to fire a cannon at them.

Bashy, that's funny!

14 Carat video that!

Brilliant. Just what we wanted after the roundshot experiment

Carrots are a bit hard, try it with centre sections cut from bananas maybe?

I love the recoil of the cannon. How far back did it fly?

Matthew

Now it's up to the rest of the line, on the flanks of the poor unfortunate carrots, to charge the gun before it has a chance to reload.

Matthew, the cannon recoiled into a rolled towel I put off camera. I load with 4 grains of FFFg powder, paper towel over powder wadding, shot, paper towel over shot wadding. The #12 shot load was two/three times heavier than a single .177 caliber BB. Thus, the #12 shot load recoiled significantly more than the a BB with the same loading.

By the way, a #12 shot pellet is .05 inches or 1.27 mm in diameter. There were approximately 165 pellets in the load.

I agree with Jarrovian, try it with slice of banana or cucumber.

Great experiment. The original video and TMP post were linked on our club IO group messages and there were several members who thought about what might be used for cannister at that time.

williamb, I hope your club approved of my canister choice.

Thank you.

God bless,
John T.

wrgmr1, I thought of using pickles next time.

Did the carrots make their morale roll?

That was point blank
How is the result at say 3 x the range ( and more typical for fire outside effective musket-where the troops would be giving the artillerist a hard time)?

curious

MG

Rallynow, no dice were used in these demonstrations. Just little vignettes for your entertainment.

John T shoots them down but still the carrots come back for more.

marshalGreg, these little cannons are very hard to lay and aim. Plus, it'd be hard to video with just one camera at extended ranges. Sorry.

evil, those carrots are indeed a tenacious bunch.

Would love to do this in the U.K. but we don't have easy access to black powder 😐

Marc, is it easier in the U.K. to get a black powder substitute like Hodgdon's Triple Seven? Substitutes are considered a flammable, whereas real black powder is considered an explosive.

The FFFg Hodgdon's Triple Seven is what I actually use, not black powder. Much safer to store a substitute than black powder.

This is the best thing!

I will freely admit to just responding, to simply put it back to the top.

This thread and the three rank carrots thread beats (collective maybe, could be beat) any images of Neapolitan Gendarmes, des Marines, du Genie, aux Chevaliers etc hands down…..

Just for sheer entertainment…

I wonder how many carrots were simply knocked over by the blast, or were only slightly wounded, and could then stand up to continue their charge, and how many were mortally wounded by shot.
Clearly you need more carrots on both flanks to determine the size and angle of the cone.

How many carrots would be required to look after the injured, Winston?

Winston, every carrot had at least one hit. All carrots were either killed or wounded. Carrot screams are terrible.

Next, shot over cannister vs carrot cavalry.
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They should open those files!

This remains one of the cleverest and most amusing bits of filming ever.

I have returned to it many times. Could you put them in a cuirasse and helmet and show how little protection results?

This raises an interesting figure-paintery point. The miniature gun leaves a very pronounced black powder mark on the ground. Would full-size period artillery have done the same? Should I be painting stains onto the grass in front of gun batteries?

I ask because the rules I use apply fatigue to the effects of artillery fire. The longer the crews are in action, the less effective the fire. It occurs to me that this powder-mark detail could be a really neat way of keeping track of gunner fatigue without resorting to tedious paperwork. One could instead just place progressively and noticeably larger blast-marks in front of active gun positions to indicate for how many moves the battery has been firing.

Cotton wool puffs for smoke always look like cotton wool puffs. Dry brush a bit of black paint onto a section of base, however, and Robert is one's father's sibling.

4th Cuirassier, from the YouTube videos of full size cannons firing, it doesn't appear these leave a noticeable black mark on the ground.

Also in my mini-cannon videos, firing ~165 #12 shots left a considerably more pronounced black mark than when firing just a single BB shot. Please see some of my other mini-cannon videos for comparison.

Here are all my mini-cannon videos:
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God bless,
John T.