"T28/T95 GMC US WWII assault tank / super-heavy SPG. " Topic

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"The T28 Super Heavy Tank was an American heavily armored tank/self-propelled gun designed for the United States Army during World War II. It was originally designed to be used to break through German defenses of the Siegfried Line, and was later considered as a possible participant in the planned invasion of the Japanese mainland.

The 100-ton vehicle was initially designated a heavy tank. It was re-designated as the 105 mm Gun Motor Carriage T95 in 1945, and then renamed in 1946 as the Super Heavy Tank T28.

Only two prototypes were built before the project was terminated….."
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Amicalement
Armand

The 'Doom Turtle' strikes again!

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Amicalement
Armand

The prototype was retained and dumped into a field, when they sent people to look for it they couldn't find it, they sent another team and found it "hidden by bushes"

It is a cool looking vehicle, but completely pointless. The US "Maus".

It was designed to assault Siegfried Line fortifications, not as a tank in Mobile warfare. A real role, and well-adapted. Of course, it turned out that the Siegfried Line was penetrated by conventional forces.

I love the look of the sloping engine deck.

A real role, and well-adapted.

It still suffers with the same limitations that everyone loves to quote about the Maus, no bridge would take its weight. How do you get it to where you need it?

IIRC 2 were made ? And somewhere here someone said they sent them both to the ROK to take care of the NoKo's Russian armor during the Korean War. But were withdrawn before they were deployed. Again IIRC I heard that somewhere here ?

So this could be fact or fiction ? I really don't know …

And somewhere here …

And who could THAT be?

someone said they sent them both to the ROK to take care of the NoKo's Russian armor during the Korean War. But were withdrawn before they were deployed. Again IIRC I heard that somewhere here ?

That might be me.

But I do not suggest both were sent. I only know of one.

2 October 1950: T28 Super Heavy Tank (aka 105mm Gun Motor Carriage T95) unloading at Suncheon, Korea from an LCT (6).

It was sent by train and truck from Aberdeen in July, to San Diego. It crossed the Pacific in LST-845, sailing in August 1950 from San Diego. It was re-directed first to Suma, Japan, arriving on 7 September 1950 (because LST-845 was needed for service at Inchon). From there it was transferred to the LCT for shipment to Suncheon, inside the Pusan perimeter.

It does not seem that it's services were needed by the time it got to the combat zone. The Inchon landings were a great success, and the Koreans retreated from the Pusan perimeter before the T28 could be brought to bear against them. After that it was not particularly useful, as it was not very well suited to a mobile pursuit in a mountainous country with under-developed road and rail infrastructure.

At least that's what the research says.

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-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

Didn't realize they actually deployed one of those monsters to Korea!

Now, for someone being snarky in his Weird War 2 collection, I think I need to name the 3 tanks I can have in a platoon "Animal Control," "Big Game Hunter," and "Doom Turtle".

"Cat Killer" would be the 4th, but I think the beasts would be 3 per platoon…

Though I could see an organization like the Tank Destroyers, with Jeeps or M8/M20s to recon ahead of the Doom Turtles, make sure the roads can support their fat butts.

Would have been very useful for taking on some of the bunkers in the French ports.

Of course, it would have been better with a 155mm gun for that.

IIRC, they had to use 155mm armed, M40s to batter some of those down.

Would be an interesting duel between it and a Jagdtiger.

Great photo! Interesting they had to removed the outer set of tracks to fit it on the LCT.

If it had to duel a jagdtiger, the commander should be relieved for forgetting about maneuvering to the flanks.

I would rather have 10 Shermans, an infantry company, and a battery of howitzers in support every time

Good intel Mark ! Thanks ! Would have liked to see how the T-28 did against the Noko AFVs, defensive positions, etc. But as noted it would of/may have had some problems "navigating" many locations in the Korean countryside, etc.,. E.g. bridges strong enough to hold it for one, etc.

Very interesting.

Doing some checking with fellow at the National Armor and Cavalry Museum, the date, caption and narrative are all incorrect. It is all an elaborate April Fools joke from a couple of years ago. And the joke has gotten out of hand, taking a life of its own.

The picture is of landing exercises done in 1948 by Aberdeen Proving Grounds.

I have the Panzerstahl model of this beast, and created and played a ‘what if' very late WWII scenario for it. Working out suitable stats for it in my rules of choice was an interesting exercise. Anyway, the thing was so slow that the Americans won the scenario by other means before the T28 could get into the action.

I thought it had to be one of the stupider ideas of a commander, if it had been true. No spare parts. Even the Germans rarely used their prototypes in actual combat.

Now that is interesting intel Major Mike. That seems more "plausible" … ?

I have the Panzerstahl model of this beast, and created and played a ‘what if' very late WWII scenario for it.

How about a 3 way knock down fight, Maus vs T28 vs Tortoise! :-)
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The Tortoise is the light weight at only 78 tons and with a 94mm gun.

"First things first. Last week's article was an April Fool's thing. T28 was never sent to Korea, the photographs were of an LST loading test in Virginia in 1948."

From The Chieftain"s Hatch

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This was an update/correction/clarification (take your pick) of an article from the same source

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Yikes.

Major Mike is of course correct. I was spoofed.

The original of the pic I posted, before the info placing it as an Aberdeen test of loading was cropped out:

Another pic from the same series of tests is shown in the link Marc33594 provided above. This is the original of the pic I showed in this thread above, and was actually available at the very end in the link I provided in my own posting above.

Gulp. How chastening. I pride myself on being an active (and skeptical) reader, taking others' explanations as only one perspective, and looking into sources to see where the research takes me. Yet in this case I didn't even read my own source to the end.

But … I do go where the research takes me.

Today the research is taking me out for lunch -- and fresh crow is on the menu.

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

It happens to the best of us …

@Deephorse: Yeah, the Doom Turtle is powered by the same Ford GAF V-8 as the M26 Pershing, with more than twice the weight…

"grossly underpowered" would be an understatement.

Late-War Leviathans (for Flames v3) rated the beast as Very Slow Tank.

How about a 3 way knock down fight, Maus vs T28 vs Tortoise! :-)

Whilst I have several Maus models I don't have a Tortoise. In fact is there one in 1/72 or 20mm?

GHQ has all that stuff in their 6mm Wehrmacht '47 line. link Including the Allied versions, e.g. T-28, Tortoise, etc. But they don't have the Pz VII Lowe and some others in 6mm. You have to go to Shapeways … link

But to get the real Big Gun you again have to go to Shapeways for the Ratte. link