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"What sank the USS Scorpion?" Topic


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23rdFusilier Supporting Member of TMP19 Aug 2018 5:26 p.m. PST

What sank the USS Scorpion? Here are some of the most current theories both plausible and otherwise.

1. Hydrogen explosion during battery charge

2. Accidental activation of the ship's torpedo

3. Explosion of torpedo inside sub

4. Malfunction of trash disposal unit

5. Soviet attack, they hunted down and sank the Scorpion.

Winston Smith19 Aug 2018 5:39 p.m. PST

A TMP poll will certainly settle things.
It's as accurate as having juries decide if a pesticide causes cancer.

23rdFusilier Supporting Member of TMP19 Aug 2018 5:44 p.m. PST

No, it will not solve anything and that was not why I posted it. like the one I posted about the USS Maine it is a chat among friends or like minded individuals. In addition i do find it interesting to see what other people, who are interested in topics like this think.

Wackmole9 Supporting Member of TMP19 Aug 2018 6:09 p.m. PST

The Navy spent a great deal of money to find the scorpion and the result was we found the titanic.

Personal logo Narratio Supporting Member of TMP19 Aug 2018 8:09 p.m. PST

You need to add -

6. The Deep Ones were offended by intrusion into their realm in violation of the Benthic Treaties and so took it.

Winston Smith19 Aug 2018 9:22 p.m. PST

Wikipedia article on it is interesting.
I'll go with the H2O2 battery thing. The torpedo room wasn't damaged explosively, so I would think that could be ruled out.

Major Mike20 Aug 2018 7:00 a.m. PST

I have talked with submariners form that time frame, one just last week (and we talked about the Scorpion). They felt that a collision was very possible. In their words, once everybody starts being sneaky and quiet, it's very hard to know where everyone is in the ocean. Many of the other explainations also have some basis in fact. I think Craven has predetermined the cause and looked only to find fact to support that.

skippy0001 Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2018 8:42 a.m. PST

A giant sea monster attacked it and they sent a charge through the hull which fried everyone that was taking a shower and blew up the Flying Sub, Minisub, bathyscaph, torpedoes, ICBMs and all the laser small arms lockers.

YouTube link

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP20 Aug 2018 9:25 a.m. PST

The ocean.

Legion 420 Aug 2018 3:20 p.m. PST

Aliens … of course …

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2018 10:58 p.m. PST

If there was a collision like that, presumably there'd be another sub nearby as well.

I don't recall any mention of that.

Would be nice to put the issue to bed, once and for all.

Old Wolfman21 Aug 2018 7:01 a.m. PST

5,would be my guess. A 7th option might be sabotage. BTW,Skippy,funny show you put on there.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP21 Aug 2018 4:53 p.m. PST

I blame tacos.

JimSelzer Supporting Member of TMP21 Aug 2018 7:15 p.m. PST

Megalodon ate it

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP21 Aug 2018 10:50 p.m. PST

Nah, Megalodon is extinct.

Giant squid though…….

Old Contemptibles Supporting Member of TMP24 Aug 2018 8:27 a.m. PST

5.

Oberlindes Sol LIC25 Mar 2019 9:27 a.m. PST

I think that it was a hit-and-run collision with an alien spacecraft.

Lion in the Stars25 Mar 2019 2:04 p.m. PST

As a submariner, my money is on a Jam Dive caused by a blown O-ring on the hydraulic ram for the stern planes.

Jam dives are so dangerous that we don't practice them except in the simulator. One damnfool-crazy Senior Chief thought it'd be fun to do one live, at 5 knots and shallow. We still almost exceeded Max Operating Depth.

On my big 'floating hotel' Ohio-class, you had 8 seconds to have completed all your emergency actions. The Skipjack-class subs were very responsive, according to a shipmate that had served on one, and so probably had about 5 seconds to complete those emergency actions.

The final response to a Jam Dive is to emergency-blow the forward ballast tanks to stop your dive angle from increasing.

Scorpion was traveling fast to get home, but because she hadn't received the SubSafe refit yet she was traveling rather shallow. That's not necessarily a safe place to be, as a Jam Rise could have put the sub out of the water.

But because Scorpion didn't have the SubSafe refit, that emergency blow didn't work. The EMBT blow valves iced up, just like what happened to Thresher. And that put the Scorpion into an outside loop underwater, far past her crush depth.

NavyVet27 Mar 2019 7:35 p.m. PST

A terrible way for good men to die.

Lion in the Stars28 Mar 2019 3:28 p.m. PST

Yeah, just writing the description of what I think went wrong gave me chills.

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