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goragrad17 Aug 2018 4:36 a.m. PST

In researching this I can find one example of a painted shield -

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Being mercenaries, would bidowers in service to various factions carry a shield painted in a faction color or arms, or would they have devices or random colors of their own choosing?

Personal logo x42brown Supporting Member of TMP17 Aug 2018 5:37 a.m. PST

Is this

picture

Your intended picture? Your link does not show om my m/c

If so I think that is intended to be the back of the shield with a cover (possibly leather) on the front, stretched and pinned to at rear.

I think their shields were plain with no set pattern. Perhaps painted if the owner had time and paint.

x42

Sundance17 Aug 2018 9:11 a.m. PST

If that is the back of the shield, there is no way to hold it. I would argue this is the decorated front and he is holding it by the strap or handle on the back.

goragrad17 Aug 2018 4:24 p.m. PST

Yes x42brown. Pictures shows up fine on my laptop.

I had wondered just that as well, but as with Sundance, the apparent lack of any grip or straps leads me to his conclusion.

There is also the fact that a similar, albeit smaller, version of that pattern is depicted on the shield of a French arriere-ban infantryman in Ian Heath's Armies of the Dark Ages.

Ney Ney17 Aug 2018 8:34 p.m. PST

That is great to see. I wondered what my Bidowers should look like!

Druzhina20 Aug 2018 11:35 p.m. PST
Griefbringer21 Aug 2018 9:00 a.m. PST

I think their shields were plain with no set pattern.

I would expect any self-respecting mercenary to decorate his shield in one way or another.

Swampster21 Aug 2018 10:03 a.m. PST

"I would expect any self-respecting mercenary to decorate his shield in one way or another."

There are examples from other periods of mercenaries having plain or barely decorated shields, so I wouldn't have any such expectations.

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