"Artillery Help 2" Topic

I don't paint my own figures. I have a steady painter who does most of my painting. I mention this so that you'll understand where I am coming from.
For years (more than 20) I've ignored the Artillery in the AWI. As painted artillery teams arrived, I just threw them in a box with the cannons. It never dawned on me that I would lose the listing of who was what?
But, I did. And now I have all these figure without identities. So, I'm asking for help here. Do you recognize the Artillery unit?
Later I'll get to the cannons of which I am totally lost.

First are Hattle Honors figures painted a Continentals?
Is this Lamb's?
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These are Old Glory and look British to me. Anyone?

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These are again battle Honors again looking like Continentals but with different colored small clothes.
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French? Battle Honors painted as French??
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OK I don't want to overwhelm, so I post more painted units later. Thanks

love the invisable cannon

The last ones are certainly not French! French artillerymen wore blue uniforms faced red.
Your figures look rather American to me.

They look like incorrectly painted figures to me. Nobody's artillerists wore white with sky blue facings.

Can you imagine keeping such a coat clean around cannons?

I'm not really familiar with that feather arrangement on the hats, other than perhaps late war and the American Light Infantry.

The last one, any chance that is supposed to be Spanish artillery? I don't think they look quite right for that either, but its my guess.

Chalfant

John, That's gray, you old goat!

Gray, white. What's the difference?
It's still not an artillerist's uniform colors!

Looks like they are similar to the F&I War's – Compagnie Franche de la Marine IMHO

US Continental artillery of the period did not usually have white tape on their hats.

French artillery wore blue, not white.

I don't believe that Spanish artillery wore white either, but that one I'd have to look up.

One of the reasons that artillerymen of any nation wore dark colors was 'traditionally' because of working the guns.

Officers seldom, if ever, fired the piece, unless that figure is supposed to be Washington at Yorktown where he fired the first round into the British defenses.

Nevinsrip,when "time & tide" we're right, the Continental and Royal artillery uniforms we're more similar than different. The yellow tape on the hats we're the same, until about 1778 when some of the Continental units eschewed this and left the hats untaped (1st Continental Rgt had a Swatch of bearfur affixed to their hats.)
The greater difference would be Royal Arty having yellow tape around the buttonholes on the pockets, backs, turnbacks etc. And the Continentals "probably" not, at least not thru the entire war.
There is a painting of (I think his first name was Samuel) Flower's Regiment of Artillery Artificers, where he and the soldier standing behind him are in practically a Continental knock-off of RA uniforms. Thus you could have a Continental artillery uniform with all the spice & dash of a British Royal Artillery uniform.
The Artillery coats received from France (the "Contract Coat" usually referred to as the "lottery coat") in 1778 was blue with red facings, and gold (brass) colored buttons, but no yellow tape.
So, to recap, since we're talking about gaming 28mm figures, and not trying to recreate the uniform via the latest discoveries of material culture, and you tend to get the same figs for both sides, I differentiate my Brits as blue coats,red facings, yellow tape around the buttonholes and yellow hat binding. Continentals are all of the above with or, usually,without the yellow tape on the hat & coat.
There is some further uniform distinctions with Rhode Island Arty and British Saratoga uniform mods.
I hope this helps. Are you looking to the gun carriages as well?

Concerning the bottom picture above, it looks like whoever painted them must've been watching "The Patriot" while doing so. You'll find that many nation's dressed their artillery troops the same way, blue coats, red facings and (typically) yellow/gold buttons. That's how The Continentals, British, Prussians, Hessians and French uniformed them, with some variation in small clothes. I don't mean to throw stones, AND the paint job is nice though in the wrong uniform for artillery gunners.

As I recall from the Pengel & Hurt series on the 7YW, the French had a gun for each battalion – a "Swedish" light 4 pounder, or a "rostaing" gun. The infantry crewed these guns. A fusilier company was under 40 men, and 1 was drawn from each of 16 companies to handle the gun. They would have been uniformed as infantry, as far as I know. Perhaps these in white with light blue arm to man the 4 pounder. Might they also be coast guard artillery for metropolitan France?

Three men were also drawn from each company to form a 48-man "picket" company, or light flank company in the 7YW. This gave the battalion one grenadier company of 48; 16 fusilier companies in the 30's; and the picket company – or 18 functioning companies This no longer held for the AWI?

I seem to recall that the Gray coated figures were intended to be French. AWI or F&I War I don't recall.