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parrskool19 Jul 2018 9:45 a.m. PST

…. I am hoping to make a start on the Franco-Prussian War.

I am told that a good set of rules is 1870 by Bruce Weigle. However, I believe that there is a more streamlined, faster play revision called 1871.

As I hope to concentrate on the initial 6 weeks Imperial phase, with models relating to no more than a corps (max with 6mm models) what system would you suggest is the best….. 1870 or 1871….. or what? Thanks

stecal Supporting Member of TMP19 Jul 2018 9:54 a.m. PST

I prefer the fast play version. Bruce is working on Fast Play versions of his 1859 & 1864 sets. I have played both of those at HMGS cons and I think Fast Play version is where all his efforts will be going forward.

You will need both the 1870 book for the 1870's battles scenarios & the 1871 FP for the 1871 scenarios and the Fast Play rules and CRT. In any case his rulebooks are also fantastic history, tactics and OOB resources as well.

Kevin C Supporting Member of TMP19 Jul 2018 10:47 a.m. PST

I like the "Died for Glory" rules. This set give a good feel for the different tactics and abilities of the French and Prussians.


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Valmy9219 Jul 2018 10:47 a.m. PST

I would second get both, for the same reasons.

Jcfrog Supporting Member of TMP19 Jul 2018 11:17 a.m. PST

I use a mashed up modded version.

DisasterWargamer Supporting Member of TMP19 Jul 2018 12:49 p.m. PST

Im also a huge fan of They Died for Glory – particularly the version published in the Courier – short and sweet

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Bismarck19 Jul 2018 3:00 p.m. PST

They Died for Glory is good, but Chassepot & Needlegun by Larry Brom is fast, easy to learn and play and can be used for both phases of the War. It is available from Sergeants 3.

I have 1870 also, but have never played it. Great resource and plenty of scenarios. Have not seen his 1871 set.

You are getting ready to play and enjoy a great period. My all time favorite.


AussieAndy19 Jul 2018 10:05 p.m. PST

Can't say that I am a fan of 1870 or 1871 (unless you have Bruce Weigle to run your games), but the books are great resources. We are using Fire and Fury with the Age of Valour modifications. It is working well.

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