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Winston Smith16 Jul 2018 11:39 a.m. PST

I coined the phrase "wrong tank syndrome" to make fun of people who think Patton is a terrible movie because the producers didn't think that people gave a hoot about using the "correct" tank.
They really don't, you know.

I should be getting royalties on that phrase.

paul liddle16 Jul 2018 12:39 p.m. PST

I've suffered from "wrong tank syndrome" for years, can I get counselling?. And then there's wrong uniform syndrome and wrong shield syndrome, oh God the list goes on and on!.

Winston Smith16 Jul 2018 12:49 p.m. PST

Wrong Facings Dyndrome.
Wrong Flag Syndrome.
Wrong Hat Syndrome.
Wrong Mud on Boots Syndrome.

Hollywood is as accurate as a uniform plate in a book from 1845 showing Napoleonic Dragoons at Cowpens.
Why people get upset about it is beyond me.

foxweasel16 Jul 2018 1:10 p.m. PST

Wait, so I shouldn't have given my Napoleonic Dragoons a revolutionary American flag, I'm distraught.

wrgmr116 Jul 2018 1:20 p.m. PST

"It's Hollywood" Or whatever movie producer thinks that any old uniform/vehicle will do.
However Playtone got it right.

Big Red Supporting Member of TMP16 Jul 2018 1:28 p.m. PST

"It's Hollywood" or whatever movie producer can afford an a limited budget. Getting an operational tank of any sort would be difficult and expensive. Only the super top directors/producers can get anything resembling the correct vehicle, uniform, etc. let alone enough cash or interest in researching accurate details.

Its a hyper competitive business with emphasis on business. An historically accurate box office flop is still a flop and can ruin a production company, maybe forever.

Personal logo Darrell B D Day Supporting Member of TMP16 Jul 2018 2:33 p.m. PST

You're an old spoilsport – it's just harmless nerd-fun where war gamers can annoy their friends and relatives. Or is this post really just to tell us that you coined that phrase?


Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Jul 2018 4:04 p.m. PST

+1 Big Red

PLUS, when you make your movie, if the prop rental shops don't have what you need, you make do with a plywood tank. Or a uniform that is "close enough."

Personal logo 28mm Fanatik Supporting Member of TMP16 Jul 2018 4:10 p.m. PST

Symptoms of WTS or any other variation thereof may include headache, nausea, lightheadedness, shortness of breath, tightness of the chest, reduced sexual appetite and constipation. Go see your doctor for a prescription if symptoms persist for more than 24 hours after exiting the theatre.

21eRegt16 Jul 2018 9:06 p.m. PST


Winston Smith16 Jul 2018 11:23 p.m. PST

Or is this post really just to tell us that you coined that phrase?

Pretty much. What can I say? I've seen a few others use it recently, and I want my royalties. Historicon hit the wallet hard!

Personal logo Darrell B D Day Supporting Member of TMP17 Jul 2018 7:12 a.m. PST

Well why not – it's a good phrase.😊


Tgunner17 Jul 2018 7:16 a.m. PST

Hey, I enjoy those old goofy movies from the 50's and 60's with the old "dino" tanks doing cameos for Shermans and Panzers.

For example:



That's a M51 Super Sherman of Arab-Israeli Wars fame! It is so cool to actually see one of those things fully operational, even with the German markings.


Those are M47 Pattons! Man, wouldn't it have been cool if they dropped the WWII Battle of the Bulge trappings and made this into Fulda Gap, 1955??? Then Henry Fonda could have been an Army intelligence officer trying to show USAREUR and NATO that the Soviets were up to something in Fulda…

Colonel Kiley looked unconvinced. "Sir," he started firmly, "General Sergei Ivanovich is the best they've got! He led the 5th Shock Army into Berlin back in '45 and now he's commanding the Soviet Group of Forces in Germany. They are up to something, I just know it!"

But then where would they have gotten T55s for the movie.

Oh well…


Jcfrog Supporting Member of TMP17 Jul 2018 10:37 a.m. PST

Had several talks with people from the movies.
The damning thing is when it would not cost them more to do ot right.
Otherwise, well it is just a movie. Like a crime story might irtitaye people working in actual forensics.
At least most of them unlike Rambaud, do not make claims of being historically accurate or having done great research.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP17 Jul 2018 11:07 a.m. PST

Love those old inaccurate movies!. (smile)


Texas Jack20 Jul 2018 2:41 p.m. PST

I want to see Tgunnerīs movie!

GROSSMAN Supporting Member of TMP21 Jul 2018 8:44 a.m. PST

At least they are getting better at portraying things ie the use of the warrior to make the Stug in Band of Brothers.

Old Glory Sponsoring Member of TMP07 Aug 2018 9:07 p.m. PST

My most hated scene in "historical movies is plains Indians getting picked off as they ride around and around the wagon train like idiots-- with no obvious goal whatsoever????

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