| historygamer | 11 Jul 2018 9:41 a.m. PST |
So I am curious how people feel the old ESCI kits, especially the M4A1 and Panther kits, compare to today's models? |
| Silurian | 11 Jul 2018 9:59 a.m. PST |
On the whole I think the ESCI kits are pretty good (except for the tracks), although more recent duplicate kits from Dragon or Revell tend to be better.
Some are excellent (the Dodge weapons carrier, Italian AFVs spring to mind).
Don't have a M4A1, but the Panthers look good even if they don't have the finesse or accuracy of most Dragon variants. |
Joes Shop  | 11 Jul 2018 10:27 a.m. PST |
Agreed. Nice kits but the tracks require way too much work. |
| historygamer | 11 Jul 2018 10:32 a.m. PST |
I am thinking for gaming. I have some Revell kits. Wonderful models but too fragile for gamers IMHO. |
| Stephen Hill | 11 Jul 2018 2:07 p.m. PST |
The Panther has some size issues with the turret front, its too wide. BUT, it looks every part a Panther tank. The let down with the original series were the awful tracks.For a model that was released some 40 years ago, it is more accurate than the Revell Panther & its inaccurate glacis plate angle. |
| jowady | 11 Jul 2018 4:51 p.m. PST |
The M4A1 is a "big hatch" version. Very few (and by very few I mean single digits if any) if any saw combat, most had been converted into DD tanks and most Big Hatch M4A1 hulls were built as 76mm gun tanks. |
| historygamer | 11 Jul 2018 5:38 p.m. PST |
I have some hasegawa Panthers too. I see the pics stuff on here and it looks good. I prefer the 1/72 scale stuff. |
| Silurian | 11 Jul 2018 7:39 p.m. PST |
And the ESCI kits are as fragile as the Revell (or Dragon, etc). It just depends on the actual vehicle as to whether you think they are robust enough or not.
Need not be a lot of fiddly stuff on Panthers if you leave off AA MGs. I use kits of all sorts for gaming, just handle them with care. |
| historygamer | 12 Jul 2018 5:09 a.m. PST |
Just was curious how people thought ESCI (and Hasegawa) kits measured up to some of todays models (e.g., PSC). |
LeonAdler  | 12 Jul 2018 2:37 p.m. PST |
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| Joes Shop | 14 Jul 2018 4:42 a.m. PST |
What Silurian said: all plastic kits are 'fragile'. Leon: thanks for that link. I was unaware of that company! |
looks at more open-topped German artillery vehicles.