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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP09 Jul 2018 1:47 p.m. PST

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ZULUPAUL Supporting Member of TMP09 Jul 2018 2:06 p.m. PST

How can they see?

Personal logo Pictors Studio Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Jul 2018 2:11 p.m. PST

HUD in the helmets.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP09 Jul 2018 4:20 p.m. PST

They have terrible aim – it doesn't matter

bsrlee09 Jul 2018 7:47 p.m. PST

The Athenians hired Scythian archers and used them as the local Police Force. Any 'native' archers would have been too poor to afford a helmet, being of the same economic class as the rest of the psiloi and finding better employment as rowers in the fleet.

GurKhan10 Jul 2018 12:23 a.m. PST

The Athenian archer corps that fought with the army and the fleet was an entirely separate force from the Scythian archer-police, and was partly recruited from Athenian citizens. There's an inscription that refers to "both the astoi and the xenoi archers", that is, both citizens and foreigners. See link for a good recent study:

"Two of the three citizen toxotai on this naval catalogue were actually quite prosperous men, because they had each brought a slave on board.It seems that archer corps membership had given them a good livelihood. … This surely is the answer to Trundle's question: some Athenians chose to serve as archers for the sake of full-time employment."

That status may explain why vase-paintings and so forth do show occasional archers in helmets or cuirasses.

GurKhan10 Jul 2018 4:33 a.m. PST

Oh, and for the "Scythian archers", see PDF link – "From this [references by Aeschines and Andocides] it would seem that the three hundred Scythian archers and the twelve hundred (unspecified) archers were two distinct bodies".

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP10 Jul 2018 10:11 a.m. PST



Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP13 Jul 2018 7:28 a.m. PST

They look like Martians.

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