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nevinsrip Sponsoring Member of TMP08 Jul 2018 11:05 p.m. PST

This is for any of you that read the tutorials that I posted here:

I've learned a few new tips while grinding these out for my friends. I've made another 24 craft sticks worth over the last few days and discovered a few things.

ONE…DO NOT use Krylon Camouflage paint. Repeat DO NOT.
Quite simply it dries too quickly for the static grass to fully adhere to the sisal. I tried it and it was frustrating. I went back to regular Krylon browns.

TWO… If you are making thicket that will stay glued to the craft stick, there is an easy way to skip the PVA steps. If you are proficient with the hot glue gun,
you can just attach the sisal string to the craft stick with hot glue. No need to go through the PVA process.

THREE… Craft sticks come in different lengths and widths. I prefer the longer, "tongue depressor" type sticks. But, it's also good to mix sizes. Michael's has a good selection of various sizes.

FOUR….Mix up your flocks before applying them. For example, I made a 12 piece set for Saratoga. I mixed fine dark green, some coarse autumn gold, a coarse medium green and finally brown leaves. I mixed it all together and ran it through my fingers several times to eliminate any clumps. You want to grind the coarse turfs down as fine as possible.
I used the fine dark green, because it will sink into the recesses, near the "trunk" of the bush. The fine powder is perfect for this effect. I sprayed the whole piece again, after applying the mix, to lock it in.

After it dried, I sprayed near the bottom and applied the brown leaves by themselves. Perfect for deadfall.

If you decide to mix a custom blend of turfs, remember to write it down.

FIVE…..and lastly. After much consternation with cheap Dollar Store hairspray, I have discovered a much better alternative. I asked my wife "What hairspray turns your hair into shellac". Without hesitation she said "AquaNet".

So, I went to CVS, where I purchased a couple of cans of Super Hold, Unscented, Maximum Strength Aqua Net for $ 3.29 per can. Which is cheap, because it comes in a 16 ounce can, rather than the Dollar Store brand's 8 ounce cans.
In any case the AquaNet has twice the holding power and is a bit thicker, so it won't run like the really cheap stuff does.
The AquaNet yielded much better results, in a quicker time.

OK, that's it. Hope you find this useful.

skipper John Supporting Member of TMP09 Jul 2018 5:08 a.m. PST

Woohoo! Thanks for the update. I had to order the Static grass and the leaf looking material, so I await the mail. I do have about 50 little off white "thicket" things ready to go though.

Purely by accident I ended up with AquaNet hair spray! Beginners luck!!

Personal logo Sgt Slag Supporting Member of TMP09 Jul 2018 5:25 a.m. PST

LOL! I've heard comments from terrain-makers in the past, that Aqua Net is the bomb, for shellac'ing terrain!

I would add that when using Hot Glue, use the Low Temperature guns/settings… The High Temperature guns keep the Hot Glue molten for far too long, and the High Temperature Hot Glue will melt stryrofoam, and similar materials, whereas the Low Temperature Hot Glue, usually will not.

I find the Low Temperature Hot Glue has more 'working time', than I want, so the High Temperature Hot Glue is… Frustrating to work with. YMMV. Thanks for sharing! Cheers!

Personal logo 7th Va Cavalry Supporting Member of TMP09 Jul 2018 6:39 a.m. PST

If you drink tea, dry out the bags and empty the contents. Instant leaf foliage. I've even baked them in the oven to darken for a different contrast.
I've also heard it can be spray painted with short bursts from a distance for color.
Makes sense but I've never tried.

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP09 Jul 2018 10:03 a.m. PST

The second picture in this post from 2012 shows my use of tea leaf litter (tll). link The Marine section in the top left of that picture has part of their bases done in tll. I've also used tll with other scenic pieces to good effect.

Jim

45thdiv09 Jul 2018 12:11 p.m. PST

I seal my figures in Aqua Net. 30 years now with heavy use and the figures look great.

dragon609 Jul 2018 12:40 p.m. PST

45thdiv is AquaNet a matte or gloss sealer?

nevinsrip Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Jul 2018 6:16 p.m. PST

It appears to have dried clear on the bushes that I've made.

DyeHard10 Jul 2018 1:29 p.m. PST

I to like to use Tea as a scenic material.

Here are a few photos from my ancient web site:
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nevinsrip Sponsoring Member of TMP10 Jul 2018 5:32 p.m. PST

I use dried tea for deadfall and leaves.

45thdiv26 Aug 2018 7:56 a.m. PST

@dragon6 – I find it to dry matte, but one time I applied a thick coat of it and then did a quick hairdryer on high. This made the Aquanet dry a bit shiney but not a hundred percent glossy, but close.

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