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Cuirassier07 Jul 2018 4:47 p.m. PST

This is the miniature portrait of Colonel Baron Claude Mugnier. Colonel Mugnier became the commanding officer of the 6th French Dragoons in 1813 and lead his regiment at the Battle of Leipzig. Mugnier commanded the 6th Dragoons at the battles of Ligny and Wavre (?).

Is he wearing the uniform of colonel of the 6th Dragoons in this portrait?

picture

Cuirassier07 Jul 2018 9:09 p.m. PST

Thanks in advance.

Glengarry507 Jul 2018 9:12 p.m. PST

The facings of the 6th Dragoons were "Scarlet lapels, turnbacks, cuff-flaps and collar with vertical coat pockets, although much of these distinctions are not in the portrait. It looks about right for the 6th but from the evidence of the collar and lapels it could also be the 1st, 3rd, or 4th Dragoons!

Cuirassier07 Jul 2018 9:16 p.m. PST

"… and LED his regiment at the Battle of Leipzig."

:-)

La Fleche08 Jul 2018 1:59 a.m. PST

I'm no expert but it looks like the Chef d'Escadron uniform in Tenue de Parade to me – epaulette on left shoulder aiguillette on right.

The colonel's uniform has two epaulettes.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP08 Jul 2018 6:38 a.m. PST

I always thought the aigulettes were a distinction of the Guard to be honest.

I would find it hard to tell this from a junior officer of the Chasseurs a Cheval of the Imperial Guard.

The pointed lower edge of the lapels on the habit also looks like Light cavalry, ie chasseurs, not dragoons. Is this not him as a younger man?

I'll grant the white waistcoat as atypical though.


Superb portrait

Cuirassier08 Jul 2018 7:17 a.m. PST

La Fleche and deadhead,

You guys nailed it. My two main concerns were:

1- He's not a colonel in this portrait.

2- I don't think he's wearing the uniform of the French dragoons.

Could be him as a younger man, perhaps serving in the Chasseurs à Cheval of the Imperial Guard, or this could be the portrait of another French officer. I will try to find more about Colonel Mugnier's career.

Thanks for your feedback.

Cuirassier08 Jul 2018 7:19 a.m. PST

Also thanks to Glengarry5.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP08 Jul 2018 7:24 a.m. PST

Oh he is Guard, without a doubt frankly, but that was a great career move towards getting your colonelcy, eventually. Obviously got him the Legion d'Honneur anyway!

Hope you can learn more and thanks for posting an image that is new to me

Oliver Schmidt08 Jul 2018 7:36 a.m. PST

There appears no Claude Mugnier in the Base Léonore (a – not 100 % complete – database of those who became member of the légion d'honneur):

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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP08 Jul 2018 11:42 a.m. PST

Surprise frankly.

The subject of this painting has the Legion d'Honneur. (and he is 100% in C a Cheval de la G Imp rig. I was trying to be a bit less dogmatic….but that is the case, I am afraid.)

I would expect that award, of a colonel of a regt of horse, as he surely was, at some later stage.

Even if this is not CM ( who is well documented), I am puzzled, that the Col named never ever got that award.

Could be the "Given name" issue. No one has ever known me as anything but Liam. But my grandparents did my registration of birth, as my mom was so ill. They insisted William, as generations had alternated John and William. Mom and dad were furious. To this day, when I book a flight, when I pass through US immigration, I have to remember……..

Little Willy….that's me

Bet this chap had another Christian name!

GarryWills08 Jul 2018 11:57 a.m. PST

According to Quintin's Dictionary of Colonels

Claude Mugnier joined the Chasseurs du Hainaut in 1788, they became the 5th Chasseurs a Cheval in 1791. Sous Lt 4/09/1793; Captain 10/03/1804 in Chasseurs a Cheval de la Garde from 6/09/1805; Chef d'Escadron 17/06/1809; colonel of line 27/02/1813; 6th Dragoons 29/03/1813. Chev Legion d'Honneur 14/03/1806; Baron of the Empire 4/12/1812

Regards

Garry
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Cuirassier08 Jul 2018 11:59 a.m. PST

deadhead,

As Oliver Schmidt stated, Base Léonore has some gaps in its database. I find it hard to believe that a French cavalry colonel and baron of the empire was never awarded the cross of the Légion d'honneur.

Cuirassier08 Jul 2018 12:17 p.m. PST

BINGO!

Thank you very much, Garry!

So… Claude Mugnier served in the Regiment of Chasseurs à Cheval of the French Imperial Guard between 1805 and 1813. Excellent! He probably was with the regiment at Austerlitz, Eylau and Wagram, and made the Russian Campaign with this prestigious light cavalry unit. Mugnier went on and commanded the 6th French Dragoons in the late period of the Empire.

TPMers are the best. :-)

GarryWills08 Jul 2018 12:31 p.m. PST

You are most welcome,

his campaign history reads
Army of the North 1792-5, wounded 12/10/94 near Bois le Duc
Army of Sambre et Meuse 1796-7
Army of England 1798
Army of Danube 1799
Army of the Rhine 1800
Grande Armee 1805-7
Spain 1808-9 & 1810-11 & 1813
Russia 1812
France 1814
Army of the north 1815
Retired 26/01/1816

Regards

Garry
caseshotpublishing.com

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP08 Jul 2018 1:21 p.m. PST

Ah, but it takes an Irishman to spot a French Imperial Guardsman.

Sure, 'tis the aigulettes that give it away every time. Right shoulder fer an occifer, left fer a Guardsman or NCO.


But one thing we have not solved. A Regt colonel without the Leg d'Honneur? I accept gaps in the records, but I will bet there, as another given name!

GarryWills08 Jul 2018 2:34 p.m. PST

Deadhead

As I said above he got the LdH in 1806, job done then?

Regards

Garry
caseshotpublishing.com

Cuirassier08 Jul 2018 4:37 p.m. PST

Deadhead,

Mugnier got the Légion d'honneur in 14/03/1806 (see Garry's post).

Garry,

Colonel Mugnier and his 6th Dragoons also served in Germany in 1813. The 6th Dragoons, under the command of Mugnier, fought at the Battle of Leipzig.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP09 Jul 2018 5:26 a.m. PST

Apologies Garry. Did not read that carefully enough.

Between us all……

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