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Marcus Brutus06 Jul 2018 11:18 a.m. PST

I am wondering if anyone makes a 28mm French Marine that fought in Marmont's 6th Corp in 1813? I remember seeing an interesting plastic conversion several months back on TMP but it seems strange to me that in metal I haven't run across any examples of this infantry type. Have I missed it?

cavcrazy06 Jul 2018 12:01 p.m. PST

Old Glory

Marcus Brutus06 Jul 2018 1:29 p.m. PST

I can only find Marines of the Guards. Do you have a link?

Brechtel19806 Jul 2018 1:47 p.m. PST

France had no Marines. These were sailors. Marine translates as Navy in French; marin is a sailor.

The naval troops formed into infantry regiments in 1813 and assigned to Marmont's VI were naval artillerymen.

khanscom06 Jul 2018 5:24 p.m. PST

RAFM does French sailors that look appropriate for the Equipages de Haut- Bord, as well as a few naval officers. These are described as 25mm, but are well- fed.

Auld Minis ter Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Jul 2018 5:53 p.m. PST

Marcus, Brechtel198 is correct on the translation. There are no figures from any manufacturer that I am aware of so I did some of my own:

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The post has some information on their uniform.
The conversion was easy to do really. I have noted some illustrations without the distinctive plume, so any overcoated French infantryman painted a dark blue will do. (the weather was cold and rainy throughout the campaign)
Hope this helps

Edwulf06 Jul 2018 8:38 p.m. PST

So did "sailors" fulfill the same role as marines? They were on ships to provide musketry and bayonets for boarding actions? Were these "marines" just sailors in uniforms?

Did they have an equivalent of Royal Marines/US Marines/ Spanish Marines?

keithbarker07 Jul 2018 2:02 a.m. PST

@Marcus Brutus

The French "Marines" that fought in Marmont's 6th Corp in 1813 were not sailors, they were the Corps Imperial d'Artillerie de la Marine.

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@Edwulf

As you write, the British, Spanish and American had marines. As the French didn't have any marines, they used infantry on board instead.

Gunner in Field Dress, 1813…

Footslogger07 Jul 2018 2:07 a.m. PST

Based on the picture above, I did a unit of them using Front Rank figures in greatcoat and bicorne. It'll do.

cavcrazy07 Jul 2018 7:28 a.m. PST

I have Dixon figures that look like that…..hmmmm?

Marcus Brutus07 Jul 2018 11:36 a.m. PST

I take from the above comments that there isn't a metal figure 28mm figure specifically designed for the Regiments de Marine in Marmont's 6th corp.

I think it was your posting on TMP Doug that I saw using plastic figures. Very nicely done. I may go that route if necessary. As a purist I would love to have the figures with the proper sword. It surprises me that no one does this specific troop type.

Thanks everyone for the clarification but I was completely aware of the distinction. The picture above which is found on the back of Bowden's Grande Armee of 1813 lists it as "Infantryman of the French Naval Artillery Corp (Regiments de Marine) 1813-1814 in campaign dress." I speaking about these troops in the colloquial sense as "Marines." I need to remember who I am dealing with on this Forum (sigh!)

Markconz07 Jul 2018 11:52 p.m. PST

Here's mine, done using Victrix middle guard figures, simple conversion to get the distinctive carrot plume.
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