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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP02 Jul 2018 8:15 p.m. PST

"In January, 2018 Turkey reportedly awarded an 18-month contract for a study on the development and production of a long-range air- and missile-defense system to France and Italy, showing -- ostensibly -- Turkey's ongoing commitment to NATO. The study, contracted between the EUROSAM consortium and Turkey's Aselsan and Roketsan companies, was agreed upon in Paris, on the sidelines of a meeting between French President Emmanuel Macron and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

The contract for the study came on the heels of a deal between Ankara and Moscow, according to which Turkey would purchase the S-400 missile defense system -- one of the most sophisticated on the global market -- from Russia. The question is: Why would Turkey first order a Russian defense system and then turn around and make a cooperation agreement with Europe for the same purpose…"
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Gaz004502 Jul 2018 10:22 p.m. PST

Why would Turkey first order a Russian defense system and then turn around and make a cooperation agreement with Europe for the same purpose…"

To gain access ( in Chinese style) to Western tech and advances for domestic development whilst stop gap measures with best value for money systems in the meantime…..Turkey is really surging in its domestic defence industry capability ( albeit with some outside help, Israel for example).

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP03 Jul 2018 10:53 a.m. PST



28mm Fanatik03 Jul 2018 11:48 a.m. PST

I have yet to see an indigenously designed product of the vaunted Turkish defense industry enter mass production or exported. I'm talking major weapon systems like tanks, APC's and planes not small arms.

Lion in the Stars03 Jul 2018 1:16 p.m. PST

Turkey does make very good small arms at a good price, but that's largely because they bought the old manually-operated machine tools from H&K (and production rights for the stuff made on those tools) when H&K went to CNC machine tools.

But yeah, I don't think I've seen a single completely Turkish-designed big-ticket item get adopted.

Cacique Caribe Inactive Member03 Jul 2018 5:36 p.m. PST

"Is Turkey Playing a Double Game with NATO?"

Wow! Looks like some people are finally waking up and smelling all the duplicity. Duh!


Gaz004503 Jul 2018 10:28 p.m. PST

The Turks are equipping themselves with domestically produced gear and not relying on overseas sales for project funding and development……it appears to me that they are not willing to rely on anyone for equipment who may decide to turn off the gap if Turkish policies don't fit the grand plan……

Cacique Caribe Inactive Member04 Jul 2018 12:52 a.m. PST


We should be doing that too.


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