| Marcus Brutus | 02 Jul 2018 2:17 p.m. PST |
From what I can determine the Swedish Cavalry in the TYW did not wear uniforms. So my question is, how to paint up a unit of Swedish TYW cavalry. Should I work from a basic colour, blue or green or such and then begin adding variations to give a varied look. Or should each figure be completely different from the others is the unit. Thanks for you assistance. |
robert piepenbrink  | 02 Jul 2018 2:58 p.m. PST |
I am not an expert, but I think you'll find you need to start with a buffcoat rather than cloth. The later Swedish heavy cavalry has the range of colors you'd expect of regiments that started out wearing deer hides. The national sash, of course, and regimental standards. |
| Korvessa | 02 Jul 2018 4:15 p.m. PST |
It's a shame the search doesn't work any more. Dan Schorr has given lots of great advice on this.
My understanding is somewhat different than Roberts.
Although they didn't have uniforms in the sense of what we think today – I believe a regiment was often issued a singular color of cloth.
Mine are painted after your suggestion – blue, green or grey coat; some have pants to match – others have them in a different color of grey or brown to give them that veteran look.
I do try and give them the same scarf when possible, to bind them together.
I have read they didn't have mass issues of buff coats, but I imagine if they were something of value, the 1st time your unit beat an enemy who had buff coats – they would suddenly appear. Been wrong before – and am no expert – but that is how I understand it. |
John Leahy  | 02 Jul 2018 5:26 p.m. PST |
The Search function has been active for a while now. |
| Terry37 | 02 Jul 2018 7:40 p.m. PST |
I agree with Korvessa about the Swedes being more inclined toward at least a common coat color. But I have other references that mention uniforms in other armies of the period as well. Terry |
| Shagnasty | 02 Jul 2018 7:45 p.m. PST |
From my secondary reading and Daniel S's excellent sources I would agree with Korvessa as well. That is the way I painted mine but I fear my colors are not irregular enough. |
| Daniel S | 03 Jul 2018 1:31 a.m. PST |
Just a clarification, I'm not Dan Schorr, we have similar initials but diffrent areas of interest, Dan focuses on on the 1655-1721 period i.e the Carolean armies while I am a Vasa man and study 1560-1648 (with some thinga up to 1660) |
| SteveTheTim | 03 Jul 2018 1:55 a.m. PST |
I paint mine like this. Only officers have buffcoats and they're sleeveless. Armour is black, not 'metallic'. Coats are different colours, but blue preponderates. This is based on lots and lots and LOTS of research and peer-review. Hope you settle on something that pleases you.
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| Daniel S | 03 Jul 2018 2:21 a.m. PST |
The material used in buffcoats can be confusing because the the same word, elk, refers to different animals depending on if the context is North America or Europe. In Europe an elk is a moose. European deer does not have the right hide for buffcoats so elk/moose and various kinds of 'buffalo' were used with the early versions having sleeves of silk or goatskin since they were made to be worn under full cuirassier armour. It took a falr bit of time before actual protective sleeves were adopted, a case of style over substance I guess. |
| Marcus Brutus | 03 Jul 2018 6:19 a.m. PST |
Thanks for the good counsel. I think I have a clear idea what I should do. |
| Korvessa | 03 Jul 2018 10:45 a.m. PST |
Dan S.
Sorry about the mistaken identity. Worst part is I think I have made that mistake before.
Must be getting old and feeble minded ;-) As others have said, I have based my guys on various comments by Dan. With a touch of what I think looks cool.
So I have 3 units: 2 Swedish and one Finnish
One Swedish unit has (mostly) blue coats, the other green.
The Finns are in Grey and slightly less armored than the Swedes. Years ago – before I knew better – I painted some 15mm Croats as Finns – giving them Lappi colors.
Good times. |
