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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian25 Jun 2018 3:56 p.m. PST

An Uruk Orc is worth how many typical human warriors?

ZULUPAUL Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2018 4:15 p.m. PST

At least two.

Gone Fishing25 Jun 2018 4:38 p.m. PST

Interesting, but I'd respectfully disagree with Paul. Assuming we mean human warrior types, I'd say there might just be parity between the two, though possibly with the nod still going to the human. Regular Orcs, of course, were significantly weaker, especially in sunlight.

John Leahy25 Jun 2018 4:41 p.m. PST

Yep, they were tougher than regular Orcs so parity with humans. Just lots more of them as a general rule.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2018 5:59 p.m. PST

1:1

Louie N25 Jun 2018 7:21 p.m. PST

one

saltflats192925 Jun 2018 9:22 p.m. PST

Higher morale?

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2018 12:18 a.m. PST

0.8

Bigger and stronger than regular orcs.
But still not as good as a half decent human warrior/soldier.

Personal logo Patrick R Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2018 12:42 a.m. PST

Orcs and Uruks rated below the average man and massively below those of greater heritage like Dunedain, Men of Gondor, or the more heroic types from the Dale-lands or Bree, let alone the Elves in their better days or some of the tougher Dwarves of Durin's line.

Porthos26 Jun 2018 12:54 a.m. PST

"It still counts as one !" like Gimli says after Legolas shoots a Mumakil (Oliphaunt) while fighting the Haradrim. So why should an orc (Uruk Hai) be more than one human ?

Dynaman878926 Jun 2018 2:53 a.m. PST

It really depends on which humans. Main characters they count as about .0001 human, others they seem to be 1 to 1 or so. Against movie Elves back down to .0001

Personal logo x42brown Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2018 3:08 a.m. PST

I have them as a bit weaker and less skilled than a human warrior but able to take a bit more damage. Making them about equal over all.

x42

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2018 5:22 a.m. PST

Maybe a bit tougher but also a bit dumber and slower – so I would rate 1:1

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2018 6:21 a.m. PST

It really depends on which humans. Main characters they count as about .0001 human, others they seem to be 1 to 1 or so. Against movie Elves back down to .0001

Only Legolas. The other elves at helms deep were no more useful then the boys and old men from Rohan.
Elves in the last hobbit weren't that good either (as well as being tactically inept)
But the orcs in the hobbit even though 20% bigger than uruks will die from a glancing blow from an old woman with a broom.

Thomas Thomas26 Jun 2018 7:41 a.m. PST

Roughly one.

TomT

Patrick Sexton Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2018 9:19 a.m. PST

1:1

Tgunner26 Jun 2018 9:53 a.m. PST

In GW's LOTR game Uruks were better fighters, tougher, and higher strength than basic humans. They had the same moral. Basic orcs were basically equal to humans but worse fighters and more poorly equipped.

A Gondorian soldier with heavy armor could easily take a regular orc, but would struggle against Uruks. Proper tactics could even the battle somewhat but you knew you were in for a fight when Uruk-hai took to the field. Regular orcs were no sweat. Man-to-orc you knew you had a good chance of taking them down. Not so with the Uruks. Men of Rohan had it even worse with their regular armor and defense of 4… not pretty.

Timbo W26 Jun 2018 11:18 a.m. PST

0.5

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2018 11:39 a.m. PST

In combat: 1.11

evilgong26 Jun 2018 8:45 p.m. PST

0.7 to 0.8

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Jun 2018 4:52 a.m. PST

A 28mm uruk hai costs about $3.50 USD and a regular human infantry costs about $1.35 USD so the answer is ~2.59.

QED

Timbo W28 Jun 2018 5:10 a.m. PST

It is about 0.075, as in Eomer's battle against the Uruk Hai and orcs near Fangorn he killed about 200 orcs for the loss of 15 men. These were heavy cav though!

KPinder28 Jun 2018 4:30 p.m. PST

My gut is orc vs. good human foot .75 to 1
Uruk vs. good human foot 1.5 to 1.
Goblin vs. good human foot .5 to 1.

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