faraday77 | 14 Jul 2005 3:07 a.m. PST |
On page 14 you can see the green of a mecha. PDF link Are there officially plans about doing a mecha line announced already? Anyone heard something about this? |
Dewbakuk | 14 Jul 2005 3:21 a.m. PST |
Not heard or seen anything, but that's a pretty cool mecha. |
NoNameEither | 14 Jul 2005 3:29 a.m. PST |
"Everything" rackham do is beautiful.. even their flipping sales reports it seems! |
Steve Flanagan | 14 Jul 2005 3:35 a.m. PST |
The market analysis is interesting too. |
Turtle | 14 Jul 2005 3:46 a.m. PST |
If they come out with a mecha game I'll probably sell all my Warmachine stuff for it. |
Mutant Q | 14 Jul 2005 4:28 a.m. PST |
Oh
my
. God
That is most lovely mech I have EVER seen! Please. oh please Rackham, produce these things and I'll never make a joke about the French again. |
cubeblue | 14 Jul 2005 4:46 a.m. PST |
That mech is awesome. I'm already on board if they start making a line like that. I wonder what scale it is? Wish I could read French so much
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khaibar Igor | 14 Jul 2005 4:52 a.m. PST |
The mecha range is a very old project that was announced there in france in 2000 or 2001. I don't know what they want to do now but in 2001 or 2002 they said they won't do it. Paolo Parente developed a part of this range as toys. |
System Crash | 14 Jul 2005 5:09 a.m. PST |
According to the Rackham forums, it has been resurrected and will show its face sometime towards the second half of next year (2006) or at least thats the translation. Also reports that Cadwallon in the first part of 2006. R |
PeteMurray | 14 Jul 2005 5:21 a.m. PST |
Dang, that's a great mech! |
Rob Jedi | 14 Jul 2005 5:23 a.m. PST |
Read talk about it over on FU!UK link It seems the mecha in question will be produced as a multipose plastic kit, very interesting. It's a rather cool design, has a nice Armored Core, Front Mission look to it. |
CmdrKiley | 14 Jul 2005 5:23 a.m. PST |
Yeah that mecha is sweeeet! Probably the most Japanese anime'ish since the Mekton, Heavy Gear or Jovian Chronicles line. I heard that Rackham wasn't interested in doing any sci fi line either. Heard that from Paolo Parente in his Dust forum, as he was trying to sell them on doing his sci-fi alternate history WWII idea, they're response was Non. Too bad because last I had heard was he was planning on some sort of prepainted vinyl collectable minis for this project now. |
Rob Jedi | 14 Jul 2005 5:27 a.m. PST |
Oh and here is the pic without the PDF picture |
syr8766 | 14 Jul 2005 6:00 a.m. PST |
Any sense of size/scale? It really is quite lovely. |
Psycho Rabbit | 14 Jul 2005 7:17 a.m. PST |
They are working on a Sci Fi Confrontation, not sure if that is a model for the game or not. Rabbit |
emau99 | 14 Jul 2005 7:30 a.m. PST |
Wow
I'm not a big "mecha" fan, but I'd buy that up, no problem! |
shaloop | 14 Jul 2005 10:12 a.m. PST |
Beautiful piece. I'd also like to know the scale. |
wolvermonkey | 14 Jul 2005 10:13 a.m. PST |
Very nice. Sorta Front Mission/Armored Core look about it with just a little Heavy Gear too. But the french are big anime fans so they should be able to design a nice mecha.Just like DP9. I always thought the Battletech mechs looked kinda clunky compared to the Japanese mechs.Except for the few they stole from anime in the very begining.Some of the Mechwarrior mechs aren't to bad but still not as good looking as the Japanese mecha designs. If they come out with this one I'll have to get a few.If for no other reason than to add it to my ever growing mecha collection. |
Javier Barriopedro aka DokZ | 14 Jul 2005 10:27 a.m. PST |
Erm
Blocky "mangaish" mecha
. Looks nice, but I shudder to I think what the price could be. And this looks like Rackham is going CORPORATE the GW-way. I have to read the whole thingy, but it does read like they are getting ready to go public. |
faraday77 | 14 Jul 2005 10:51 a.m. PST |
Wolvermonkey: exactly what I was thinking. ;) |
nanite | 14 Jul 2005 12:00 p.m. PST |
Boring, you can get almost identical items from hobbylink Japan. Heck, your average Gundam capsule toys are probably the same size and detail. |
wolvermonkey | 14 Jul 2005 6:18 p.m. PST |
Nah, the Gundam capsule toys aren't that detailed. I've got quite a few. From hobbylink japan actually. And when I was over there too. But they would be good to game with. |
Ivan DBA | 14 Jul 2005 6:27 p.m. PST |
Snore. Yes, its got superlative detail, but nanite is right, its style is very generic and common already. What we need is more non-humanoid bpieds, ones that are a little more plausible as real machines. (my favorite being the original Marauder and Locust from Battletech. |
Jakar Nilson | 14 Jul 2005 7:41 p.m. PST |
Javier is pretty spot on about the text. Most of it deals with financial comparaison between Rackham, GW, Topps and Hasbro, and has a few ideas about how to surplant GW. Also, Hasbro is ~300 000 000$ in debt?! o_0 |
Sargonarhes | 14 Jul 2005 8:20 p.m. PST |
It would seem they did not think to place an object next to it to get a sense of scale. One could say it looks too much like a Heavy Gear if not for the fact that there is no signs on the secondary movement system or the wheels in the feet. DP9 got that idea from AT Votoms. It actually reminds me somewhat of a Moriboto from Jinki from the waist up. The lower half looks like a Garland from Megazone 23. |
EmpyreanLC | 14 Jul 2005 10:53 p.m. PST |
Ivan DBA, have you heard of Maschinen Krieger? That series of models should have what you're looking for It's got the shape of a Wanzer (Front Mission), and looks like an Armored Core. Yeah, it's a generic style, but it looks good. Much better than Dreampod9. That makes it stick in my head, it looks good for what it is. |
Typhoon | 15 Jul 2005 12:36 a.m. PST |
Reminds me very, very strongly of the Front Mission miniatures I buy over here in Japan. Blocky instead of the "organic" look of Evangelion, Armored Core, or "Brain Powered" mecha. Yes, it does have a touch of Heavy Gear and a bit of Battletech in there too. I thought of the new Brigade mechs when I first saw it. |
stormseer88 | 15 Jul 2005 4:56 a.m. PST |
it's the coolest mecha iv'e ever seen! I'll throw-away my Tau and buy this instead! |
Sargonarhes | 15 Jul 2005 7:45 a.m. PST |
That's because the Evas and Brainpowereds aren't really mecha, unless you want to classifiy them as an organic mecha. The Brain Powered or Grand Che and Anti Bodies as their called are literally born. The Evas, they never fully explained how those things came into being. The Armored Core mecha however, I don't see them as organic looking. Sleek is more accurate as they were designed by Shoji Kawamori, who also designed the mecha from Macross. The Valkyres and Zentradei Battlepods. He also did the designs for Gundam 0083 Stardust Memory. |
Javier Barriopedro aka DokZ | 15 Jul 2005 10:35 a.m. PST |
OOOOOOOH MAN! If Confrontation is expensive, yet selling BIG and gaining a foothold over "uncontesteds" GW territory (according to ther pamphlet), going public woul dactually help them expand even more aggressively and "adjust" their prices
TO BECOME EVEN MORE COMPETITIVE (or so I gathered from my long-in-disuse French)! Does this mean "yearly price increases" to keep up with GW's own? I doubt it. It could actualy mean cheaper minis as their production soars and their foothold strenghtens in the world market. I'll will be follwing this very closely. And yep, Jakar, Hasbro is indebted beacuse of various refinancing operations they entered into. No sign of a crash, yet, but it coudl coem to that given the poor response the Star Wars toys are having once the lame Episode III euphoria passed and the big blooper of putting out zillions of "Valor vs. Venom" packs that are just no selling. Franchise-based toys seem to die just as soon as the current fad vanishes. And Marketing execs keep being the greedy bastards who charge too much, flood the market and then find out something is "wrong" with the consumer's response
Yeah, right. Anyway, if Rackham is going on "berserk invader" mode, I'm planning to sit through it all. Can't care for more than a few Wolfen or Carnassieur models, and don't care for the "revised" rule book coming out
But I wan to see how the plan to supplant GW on North America and attend to markets GW has neglected or ignored so far. |
Javier Barriopedro aka DokZ | 15 Jul 2005 10:37 a.m. PST |
ARGH! The typos! The damnable typos! |
wolvermonkey | 15 Jul 2005 11:08 a.m. PST |
@ivan dba The marauder mech was stolen from Macross. And the Locust mech was stolen from the Crusher Joe movie where it wasn't even a mech really. Just and unmaned robot guard that was matbe 10-12 feet tall. Kinda like an ED-209. For a more realistic looking mecha you might try the mechs from a show called Gasaraki. There's 3 model kits out for them. @sargonarhes Ha ha, yer right! I forgot about the Moriboto. Also another example of nonconventional mecha would be the enemy mechs from Rahxephon. They had a few odd ones in DaiGuard too. |
EmpyreanLC | 15 Jul 2005 4:01 p.m. PST |
Armored Cores organic? Well
they come in two styles rounded out armor or boxy armor, maybe you only saw the rounded out ones? And three sizes, light, med, heavy. Light rounded armor AC's could look organic I guess, but heavy blocky armor ones, well, they look heavy and blocky. Not as squat as Front Mission stuff though. But AC has a pretty wide range of stuff (you could make AC's that look pretty close to whatever Destroid you have in mind) |
Mutant Q | 16 Jul 2005 9:40 p.m. PST |
"The Evas, they never fully explained how those things came into being." Well, since Evangelion drew heavily upon kabbalistic themes, I always equated them with high tech golems. |
EmpyreanLC | 19 Jul 2005 8:48 p.m. PST |
they did eventual explain how they came into being though. Not the exact details, but I thought I got it. |
Mutant Q | 19 Jul 2005 8:55 p.m. PST |
Snore. Yes, its got superlative detail, but nanite is right, its style is very generic and common already. You're joking. The only "mecha" sytle miniatures I ever see come from the Battletech a-bunch-of-random-boxes-on legs-bristling-with-absurdly-huge-amounts-of-weapons school of design. Even CAV has gone that route. The only other figs that come close to Rackham's are Heavy Gear. |
Greydeath | 23 Jul 2005 2:55 p.m. PST |
Hey everyone not shure about Racham doing Mecha I think it would be great. But I saw these models this weekend at the San Diego comic con and they are toys. About the size of the Crisis Suit and the distributer said we would be seeing them as soon as September he had hoped. And that they where Front Mission 4 action figures. He said nothing about a game and nothing about Racham using them. They come painted and who knows whats going on I dont read french so I couldn't tell you exactly but I have seen this all over the net and its weird? Anyways here is the photo I took personally of them as I plan to buy some when they come out.
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Sargonarhes | 23 Jul 2005 8:03 p.m. PST |
you mean both of DP9's games Siefert, well maybe some of the JC mechas are a little over gunned. Those are toys for Front Mission 4? Sounds a lot smaller than the mechas made for Front Mission 3. And you should have just left a link. TMP doesn't allow for images. I don't see any of the 4 leggers in that picture. |
Greydeath | 24 Jul 2005 10:59 a.m. PST |
I did my first post and didn't know they didn't allow IMG tags. But Ya alot smaller than the 3 series. I hope Racham does a mecha game but I saw these guys in person and photo'd them myself and the ones I photo'd was Front mission 4 and the tags if you look close even say so. Ya I wish they had the 4 leggers? Maybe later one they might? We can hope. :) |