Help support TMP


"If the British had captured Washington......" Topic


11 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

Please remember that some of our members are children, and act appropriately.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.


Back to the 18th Century Discussion Message Board

Back to the American Revolution Message Board


Areas of Interest

18th Century

Featured Hobby News Article


Featured Link


Top-Rated Ruleset

Rank & File


Rating: gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star 


Featured Workbench Article

Deep Dream: Editor Gwen Goes Air Force

Not just improving a photo, but transforming it using artificial intelligence.


Featured Profile Article

Remembering Marx WOW Figures

If you were a kid in the 1960s who loved history and toy soldiers, you probably had a WOW figure!


Featured Book Review


912 hits since 21 Jun 2018
©1994-2024 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?


TMP logo

Membership

Please sign in to your membership account, or, if you are not yet a member, please sign up for your free membership account.
Winston Smith21 Jun 2018 7:46 p.m. PST

….would they have exchanged him?

Bear in mind that they were more than willing to exchange Charles Lee. Conspiracy theorists may speculate.
They also exchanged Sullivan.

So. On the theory that they had little respect for his generalship, would they have been eager to see him back in command, damaged?

Other speculation is invited. Follow the title and first paragraph. Not my looney speculation. grin

Narratio21 Jun 2018 7:59 p.m. PST

You mean instead of setting fire to it?

Oh…. sorry, I was musing on 1812 not Independence. My bad.

Carry on

Bashytubits21 Jun 2018 9:13 p.m. PST

Fortunately this did not really happen, I personally think he would have been executed for treason.

Winston Smith21 Jun 2018 10:03 p.m. PST

Possible, but they didn't hang Lee, who was far more culpable of treason.

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP22 Jun 2018 4:10 a.m. PST

You mean instead of setting fire to it?

Oh…. sorry, I was musing on 1812 not Independence. My bad.

Carry on

There would be nothing stopping them from setting fire to the man Washington.
Humans burn quite well.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP22 Jun 2018 4:30 a.m. PST

I doubt that given Washington's centrality in the Revolutionary cause they would have exchanged him

More likely, a fatal or near-fatal blow to the Revolutionary cause

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP22 Jun 2018 8:26 a.m. PST

Well, here's the rub. They knew both men from before the war, hence their willingness to exchange Lee…

I think, given the fact they knew Washington, they would not have exchanged him, but might even have shipped him back to England.

95th Division22 Jun 2018 8:36 a.m. PST

Agree with Frederick.

Winston Smith22 Jun 2018 10:24 a.m. PST

I don't think the British considered him all that highly.
With the exception of the Trenton Princeton campaign, they pretty much pushed him around at will.
They didn't respect Lee, which may explain his being exchanged with alacrity. Maybe they were hoping he would supplant Washington and be their bitch.
They may have respected Gates more, considering Saratoga.

I think they may have exchanged Washington because they didn't respect him.

Bill N22 Jun 2018 10:48 a.m. PST

The Rebels had a number of British and Loyalist sympathizes in their custody or within their grasp. Publicly executing a major Rebel leader during the war would have risked a bloody retaliation. If the rebellion had been crushed militarily, I expect a number of its leaders, Washington included, would have been executed. A more likely scenario though would have been a political settlement coming after a major British victory, and I am betting part of that settlement would have involved an amnesty for most rebels with banishment for some.

22ndFoot25 Jun 2018 10:44 a.m. PST

I doubt very much, had the loyalist cause prevailed, that many, if any, rebel commanders would have been executed. There was no political call to do so – they actually attracted a good deal of political support in Whig quarters and such a cause of action would have been highly divisive domestically.

Similarly, there was no historical precedence for doing so. Even in the '45 only one leading Jacobite, Simon Fraser, 11th Lord Lovat, was executed. This had more to do with his various acts of extreme criminality and double dealing earlier for which he had already been pardoned once. In short, he had it coming.

The other, practical point, is the lack, for most of the war, of anyone senior enough to exchange him for.

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.