79thPA  | 19 Jun 2018 12:56 p.m. PST |
According to several internet sites, the US has thousands of M113s in storage. Does anyone know where they are? It is my understanding that it is no longer used an an operational APC. Is that correct? I am working on a Second ACW scenario, so I am wondering if they could be pulled out of storage and used as UN peacekeeping vehicles. |
| BadMoon | 19 Jun 2018 1:29 p.m. PST |
The US Army Depot in Aniston AL. has quite a large storage area, the Sierra Depot houses a bunch as well. |
| Tgerritsen | 19 Jun 2018 1:49 p.m. PST |
There are depots all over the US where vehicles are stored. They aren't exactly hidden, but aren't exactly advertised, either. I know of one near Bend, Oregon. |
 StoneMtnMinis | 19 Jun 2018 1:53 p.m. PST |
They will also be stored at many National Guard facilities. |
| Ed Mohrmann | 19 Jun 2018 2:47 p.m. PST |
Take a look within each state. Just add the state
name behind the / mark after the dotcom milbases.com BTW, Anniston is THE Army's vehicle and small arms
repair depot. |
 Saber6  | 19 Jun 2018 4:00 p.m. PST |
And I think we still have the POMCUS sites |
| Tgunner | 19 Jun 2018 5:01 p.m. PST |
Heck, any Army base with mechanized units would have many tracks on-hand. The M113 is the ubiquitous vehicle in Army service. |
 chicklewis | 19 Jun 2018 5:15 p.m. PST |
An obscure reference work (Wikipedia) claims that there are still 13,000 M113s in active US ARMY service. I believe, but do not reallyi know, that there would be some M113s in most National Guard Armories around the USA, |
| Bunkermeister | 19 Jun 2018 6:49 p.m. PST |
The Bradley never replaced the M113 in all versions.
The developed Bradley ambulance and HQ vehicle and such, but few were fielded because the Cold War ended and they were expensive. The Marines store a lot of vehicles in the California desert. Mike Bunkermeister Creek
Bunker Talk blog |
| Rudysnelson | 19 Jun 2018 8:30 p.m. PST |
Since I live near Anniston and worked with the depot during their destruction of chemical weapons during the 1990s and 2000s, I did see many of them arrive on post. Some were refitted and may have been sold to Allies. |
| Sundance | 19 Jun 2018 9:24 p.m. PST |
I know we have large numbers of M577s. I don't think I've seen many honest-to-goodness M113s in years, though the occasional one or two do pop up. The National Guard does not use M113s – at least not in my state (and I don't know of any states that do use them) mech units used Bradleys, which I believe have all been replaced with Strykers. |
| Rob Richardson | 20 Jun 2018 3:48 a.m. PST |
M113s are still used in specialty roles such as engineering units, at least in the Guard. For example: link The article mentions three in use in an excerise a few months ago. There are maybe a half dozen visible thorough the fence at the 211th's armory in Madison, SD. Not sure what the TOE would be for 2 engineering platoons, but 6 sounds about right. |
 Legion 4  | 20 Jun 2018 7:26 a.m. PST |
Probably 4 M113s/CE Plt. 3 Squad Tracks & 1 Cmd Track … But yes, I'm sure the US has a number of vehicles including M113s stored around the USA and possibly elsewhere … All locations are most likely not common knowledge, for a number of obvious reasons … |
| Jozis Tin Man | 20 Jun 2018 7:58 a.m. PST |
@Sundance, off the top of my head I think the only Stryker BCT is in PA , every other Guard Combined Arms Battalion has Bradley's at least upgraded to ODS level. I think, could be wrong. |
| Sundance | 20 Jun 2018 10:54 a.m. PST |
I'm in the PA Guard, Jozis. Might explain that. Our vehicle park has large numbers of M577s and a very few M113s – primarily ambulance variants, but I've never seen them in use. |
| Jozis Tin Man | 20 Jun 2018 12:16 p.m. PST |
What do you do? I have been out for 10 years and spent the GWOT as an instructor for 25B's, so may not be too up to date. I have been following the implementation of the Stryker BCT with a lot of interest over the last 12 years, I have some article links you might like at:
link I am far from an expert, but I don't like the SBCT's chances against a near peer opponent with contested air superiority, significant EW interference, lots of armor, and reenfircements from CONUS 15 days away… |
| Apache 6 | 20 Jun 2018 4:03 p.m. PST |
A Lieutenant with the Virginia National Guard, fairly recently took a M-577 for a 'joy-ride' on the interstate into Richmond VA. link He was apparently on drugs of some type. |
| 79thPA | 20 Jun 2018 4:11 p.m. PST |
Thanks for the info -- I have what I need. |
| Lion in the Stars | 20 Jun 2018 7:24 p.m. PST |
Yeah, it probably wouldn't be hard to get M113s from US stocks to UN peacekeepers, assuming that the peacekeepers weren't using their own gear. I know that the various National Guard armories usually have a few scattered around. There used to be an armory for the engineers up in Moscow, ID that had a pile of M113s, probably enough for an entire battalion. Dunno if they're still there. The Cav Scouts have their armory in Haley (just south of Sun Valley), and the tankers are at Gowen Field in Boise. Lots of M113s at Gowen.
@Jozis: The Stryker is supposed to be the Light counterpart for an Armored Brigade, so shouldn't be seeing near-peers too much. The problem is that Strykers are supposed to be the Heavy counterpart for an Infantry Brigade, so get to see all the heavy crap that insurgents bring out.
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| Legion 4 | 21 Jun 2018 6:57 a.m. PST |
A lot of M113s were made … some in use with foreign militaries still today as well. With some modifications in some cases. She is a very mechanically reliable chassis and fairly easy to maintain. She'll probably still be around in some form or another for quite some time I'd think. Maybe like the B-52 … many of those are still flying too … |
