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Come In Nighthawk17 Jun 2018 6:36 p.m. PST

I am trying to wrap my head around the "Hail Caesar!" rules proscription that no more than "half" the units in a so-called "division" can be "skirmishers?" Seems mighty restrictive?? All the more-so as it appears to me to be in contra-distinction to the numbers seemingly allowed of "chariot-runners?"

I am now building forces for an "End of the Bronze Age" campaign -- having been inspired by the article in the October(?) issue of Wargames Illustrated… I have read the relevant HC lists carefully… It seems like one is allowed to have a "small unit" (or 8x figures) of "chariot runners" for each and every chariot?? In a chariot unit of say four to five light chariots, that can produce a veritable "cloud" of 32x to 40x chariot runners? FAR more skirmishers than a "bog standard" infantry "division" of say four "units" (64x infantry) could have, at about 16x "skirmishers" in two units!!??

What am I mis-interpreting?? Thanks in advance for the help!

Mr Steve18 Jun 2018 3:17 a.m. PST

One chariot runner unit per chariot unit

so if you had 4 chariot units each with 4 chariots then
you can only have a maximum of 4 small chariot runner units each of 8 figures.

so in this example you therefore have 16 chariots and 32 runners .

Chariot runners are also not classed as skirmishers but are normally light infantry as per their description in the army lists.
The army lists clearly name who are Skirmishers and its these that only count towards the divisional percentage allowance.

Scum123418 Jun 2018 7:40 a.m. PST

Unless this is some sort of tournament, if you disagree with the lists, ignore them.

Look at page 4 of the Biblical & Classical book under "Objective of the List". That gives you license to do as you feel best with regard to army lists. As if you needed such permission.

Come In Nighthawk16 Jul 2018 6:44 a.m. PST

Appreciate the responses. Was chatting w/ a fellow at Historicon this past weekend about this (in general terms). Have learned a valuable lesson in reading the HC! rules -- be VERY careful about the terms the authors sling around!! E.G., "warband" isn't just about their dress and eating habits!! If they ever come out with a ver. 2.0, I could suggest some careful edits!! E.G., they need a danged INDEX!!! I also think they should take all the "back story" verbiage that clutters the text and consolidate that in an appendix, so that the "rules," as it were, "cut to the chase!"

Okay, so then, where it reads "one chariot runner unit per chariot" in the TEXT of the Army Lists supplement, THAT is a typographical error, and should read in every case; "One chariot runner unit per chariot UNIT." That makes much more sense!

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