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robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2018 8:02 a.m. PST

I have been exploring the Dealer Hall map for Historicon, and I'm hoping I'm missing something. Is anyone other than Old Glory 10's likely to have merchandise at a scale under 15mm?

Flea Marketeers, here's your chance. Dig up now all the stuff you bought and decided was too finicky to paint, and toss it in the pile for Lancaster. I KNOW one of you has 5mm H&R ACW.

McKinstry Fezian17 Jun 2018 10:08 a.m. PST

Silver Eagle normally has some 6 & 10mm Irregular Miniatures.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Jun 2018 1:50 p.m. PST

Will Cracker Line have representation there? They have a nice 10mm line of ACW.

But yeah, anything under 15mm is rare as hen's teeth at any show.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP17 Jun 2018 4:02 p.m. PST

Only in the US, EC. Notice how the six and ten mil dealers dominated the early nominations for favorite vendor at SALUTE? Between that and the rise of computer-moderated horse & musket games, one of these years, I'm going to do the intelligent thing--skip one or maybe two major conventions, and blow the entire convention budget on more castings than I'll live to paint.

At the current rate, they'll all come from the UK.

shthar17 Jun 2018 8:16 p.m. PST

We don't have room for what nobody gone buy. 15mm and under is DEAD.

steamingdave47 Inactive Member18 Jun 2018 12:53 a.m. PST

@shtar.
Very buoyant in the UK. 6mm even has its own dedicated show, "Joy of Six" in Sheffield next month. There wil be inspirational games on show there. There are more and more 10mm ranges from Pendraken, Lancer, Steve Barber, Old Glory and others.
Painting them is not the challenge many make it out to be, I am in my 8th decade and still painting 10mm. I have pretty much given up with 28mm as it tskes me hours to paint a figure to the standard that I would like.
Smaller scales are the future! They make it possible to put on a decent game with hundreds of figures on a 6x4, recreating battles with armies that look like armies rather than a few reoresentative bases.

shthar18 Jun 2018 1:06 a.m. PST

I'll trade you my 15s for your 28s. Whattya got?

The Wargaming Company18 Jun 2018 4:35 a.m. PST

We will be offering our Napoleonic ESR Box Sets which feature 1:160 (aka 10mm) figures.

link

-TWC
thewargamingcompany.com

Daribuck Supporting Member of TMP18 Jun 2018 5:07 a.m. PST

RE: 15mm and under is DEAD.

News to me! That's all I have. In fact, I am wondering where people store their 28s!

Daribuck

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Jun 2018 5:15 a.m. PST

15mm and under is DEAD.

Not in Sci Fi – it is growing at an enormous pace.

Not in Fantasy – loads of new vendors making fabulous stuff.

Not in historicals – loads of vendors with new releases.

I think the hobby is in a golden age….

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP18 Jun 2018 5:45 a.m. PST

I'm with EC. I'm giving very serious consideration to any buy in 28mm, these days. I'm not giving them up--mostly--but I'm really not looking for fresh armies. Both game and storage space are problems, however nice the figures look.

I expect all the 15mm to be off to the flea market in the next 5-10 years. They're either the perfect scale--big enough to see and small enough to play and store--or they fall between the stools: big enough to be awkward on small tables, and too small to be handled individually.

It's 10mm and under where I'm looking at new projects, and there's no shortage of possibilities. The manufacturers are still adding ranges and upgrading figures. This year is 2mm Napoleonics and 10mm ACW, and I'm thinking next year 2mm ACW and 6mm WWII North Africa. I can store in a closet and fight on a card table. And I'll have to take a look at the new Wargaming Company Napoleonics. Don't confuse "doesn't look good at a convention" with "no one buys the stuff."

But of course you're anonymous shthar, so I have no idea what your financial stake in the matter is. Wouldn't care to enlighten us?

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP18 Jun 2018 7:49 a.m. PST

My latest fad is laser cut buildings.

mildbill18 Jun 2018 10:58 a.m. PST

I know shthar and he sells used figures at US shows, usually
estate items. He really does not have a financial stake in anything. I personally like 15mm and don't care what the cool kids are using. Although if I were to start over in WWII I would use 10mm.

Rogues118 Jun 2018 11:12 a.m. PST

I don't think Bill and Cracker Line will be at Historicon as he is going on a trip with his wife. He is great to work with on line and has some great new ranges. Have a great trip Bill.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP18 Jun 2018 11:58 a.m. PST

Thank you, Mild Bill. But in that case, shthar, I'm sure you'd be happy to sell 2mm or 5mm to me at a "this scale is dead" price? Not as though they'll take up a lot of room in your vehicle.

But, yes, I do always assume that anonymous people have a stake in their answers. I'm like that.

shthar23 Jun 2018 8:08 p.m. PST

Never had any 2 or 5mm. At least, I didnt think i had. I guess I could have a few thousand of those around and not know it.

Been hauling 15s and 28s, painted & unpainted, pretty regularly to shows for the last 10 years or so. And the demand for 15s has been less and less each year. Outside of flames of war or painted 15s, and not ALL painted 15s. 28mm has held pretty steady.

I just can't waste my time hauling boxes of stuff people dont ask for. This stuff is HEAVY.

I'm not trying to get anything over on anyone. I don't want to sell anything to anybody that they don't want. People tell me they want 28mm, and they're buying 28mm.

unpainted 15mm? Dead silence.

Fitzovich25 Jun 2018 7:15 a.m. PST

"15mm and under is DEAD."

News to me as I am only purchasing and building armies in 6mm. All my 25mm and 15mm are long ago given away.

But, I guess that I am just plain wrong?

custosarmorum Supporting Member of TMP27 Jun 2018 9:04 a.m. PST

Of particular interest to this thread, I will be bringing about 1000 Adler 6mm ACW to the Friday afternoon session.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP28 Jun 2018 3:15 p.m. PST

shthar, your mistake may be lumping "15mm" with "under." And you notice I started the thread by asking about "under" not about 15mm.

kodiakblair28 Jun 2018 3:48 p.m. PST

Robert.P.

There's been a big boost in 2mm the last couple of months. The fella behind Foward March Studios put out his "print your own" range,$15 for all the files and free downloads of new additions.

https://forwardmarchstudios.com

Within days folks had taken his models and expanded the ranges further.

shthar29 Jun 2018 11:41 a.m. PST

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