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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian14 Jun 2018 7:33 p.m. PST

Do you like to take armies from different eras and fight the same battle? Example: Plancenoit, but fought with 1870 armies.

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP14 Jun 2018 7:40 p.m. PST

Yes. That approach makes it easier to set up historical battles where the players don't immediately recognise the full situation because they might be familiar with the historical battle.

Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian14 Jun 2018 8:31 p.m. PST

yes, a couple of times

TMPWargamerabbit14 Jun 2018 8:39 p.m. PST

Dozens of gaming event days. Bonus for the first player to mention…… "I think have seen this battlefield before"…. it looks like xxxx.

Personal logo Texas Jack Supporting Member of TMP14 Jun 2018 9:50 p.m. PST

Ive never done it on the ground, but lots of times with naval. Jutland with pre-dreadnoughts is a hoot!

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP14 Jun 2018 10:51 p.m. PST

I do it all the time for convention games. Antietam, Gettysburg, Waterloo, Austerlitz and Aspern-Essling have all been used for SYW scenarios.

Rallynow Supporting Member of TMP14 Jun 2018 11:24 p.m. PST

Plancenoit 1870, that would be me. Plan to do it again this year.


rvandusen15 Jun 2018 2:01 a.m. PST

It is a cool way to disguise a battle to keep the players in the dark so no 20/20 hindsight.

One could also use the setting of an entire war as the jump off point for a pseudo-historical scenario. I remember an old Miniature Wargames article where the author had a 1920's Somalia campaign based on Operation Restore Hope.

I've sometimes considered making up a Boxer Rebellion-esque scenario in a fictional country as a background for a campaign involving modern international forces marching on a capital to rescue the surrounded embassies.

Whirlwind15 Jun 2018 4:50 a.m. PST

Yes, within limits. I'd happily reset Blenheim to the Napoleonic Wars or Waterloo to the WSS, but I wouldn't do either as the Punic Wars or WW2 Eastern Front.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP15 Jun 2018 6:42 a.m. PST

I'm with Whirlwind. I'm happy to swap out within an era--in fact you have to, unless you want to be even more overburdened with armies than I am. But battles and battlefields change when you swap eras or drastically change the size of the battle.

rustymusket Supporting Member of TMP15 Jun 2018 6:45 a.m. PST

The idea is good, but I have never actually followed through and done it.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP15 Jun 2018 7:31 a.m. PST

Being that real world armies have frequently taken their contemporary forces to fight past battles, yeah, sure.

21eRegt15 Jun 2018 7:41 a.m. PST

Good intentions but rarely.

rmaker15 Jun 2018 12:14 p.m. PST

I've done it.

Dragon Gunner15 Jun 2018 4:07 p.m. PST


I have friends that are just not excited about playing historical miniature wargames. They also tend to know very little about military history… Its actually quite a boon for creating scenario ideas, all I have to do is change some names, create a fictional map (based on the real map) and use scifi or fantasy miniatures.

I ran a short 40K campaign based on the 1884 Dervish uprising in the Sudan, humans were Brits and the Orks were Dervish.

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