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Lord Hill14 Jun 2018 5:28 a.m. PST

Another rip-off from Warlord: I just bought their Polish Vistula set, intending to use the czapskas for a conversion project I'm working on. The picture on the front of the box shows a whole unit marching into battle in czapskas, everyone in fact except the drummer and sapper.

BUT…when you open the box…it's just the same plastic French set in shakos with FOUR metal heads in czapskas. What a pathetically sneaky con. What next from Warlord? Can they stoop any lower? The tiny font legal exemption "contents may vary from those shown" indicates that they are fully aware of the cynical rip off they're engaged in.

My fault I suppose for not learning my lesson after buying the "Hanoverian" set,which is actually just the British line set with some sprues of cloth caps. The British flank company figs are still in there (of course) even though Hanoverians didn't have flank company men in "wings".

That's the last time I give Warlord a try. Now… anyone want to buy some LOVELY Warlord French on ebay???

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP14 Jun 2018 5:37 a.m. PST

The box cover is indeed deceptive. Their website is clearer. They assume that only the grenadier company wore the Czapska. The bell topped shakos seem to come in two types. The lozenge plate and the sunburst design.

They have so often been so disappointing, let down by some careless research. The British heavy cavalry are the worst.

Lord Hill14 Jun 2018 5:48 a.m. PST

The British heavy cavalry are the worst.

Doubly bad in that, not only is the set an atrocious joke which I'm never going to buy, but it deters others (i.e. the Perrys) from producing a British heavy cavalry set in plastic because they're "already been done".

I still think a Perry set of heavy dragoons would be a winner helmet and Scots Greys heads for 1812-1815, and maybe a boots/overalls option for the legs.
But I'm not holding my breath any more.

HairiYetie14 Jun 2018 6:20 a.m. PST

I wouldn't worry about that Lord Hill. The Perrys have already issued the superb set of Chasseurs a Cheval despite Warlord having beat them to it.

My biggest frustration with the Perrys is that they keep bouncing around between subjects. Of course that is their prerogative and I am very grateful that at least they have not chosen to divert away from Napoleonics entirely like Victrix have done.

In the meantime I keep drooling for those Prussian reservists which they posted 3ups for 7 years ago …

setsuko15 Jun 2018 1:22 a.m. PST

I got the box as well as a part of a used lot online. I'll be using them as bog standard infantry (switching the heads with perry extras), and I've bought my Poles from Murawski instead. ;)

138SquadronRAF Supporting Member of TMP15 Jun 2018 7:18 a.m. PST

Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.


Marc at work15 Jun 2018 8:45 a.m. PST

Yet people keep buying them. I guess clever marketing and pretty boxes will sell anything (I should know, I have bought some right old turkeys in 1/72 soft plastic based on evocative box art that bore, at best, only a passing resemblance to the box contents…)

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP15 Jun 2018 9:15 a.m. PST

They can produce some good work, but, seemingly, only in metals. the head of column for the Imperial Guard say, or the small ambulance. Not cheap mind you.

Another thought (maybe too late now) is to just buy the separate heads that are sold at £0.50 GBPp each. Unless you feel you are throwing good money after bad!



Paul at Warlord Games Sponsoring Member of TMP15 Jun 2018 11:41 a.m. PST

A 'con'? Not the words of a gentleman.

Then again you're playing the French so your judgement on such matters is clearly suspect… ;)

Seriously though – we did extensive research through our Polish staff and expert contacts to ensure this set is accurate and we fully stand by that.

The back of the box VERY clearly shows the contents. No attempted deception there.

Similarly you, as a Napoleonic gamer, will know that the box front shows the grenadiers and not the rest of the unit. Nope, no deception there either.

Blaming Warlord is, frankly, below the belt and I take umbrage that you're pointing the finger at us when the issue is with your eyesight/knowledge. Duels have been fought for less.

You yourself will no doubt know that the likelihood of a regiment of Poles all wearing czapka is extremely unlikely so not sure why you expected the whole unit to be sculpted that way.

Yours bemusedly,


Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP15 Jun 2018 1:25 p.m. PST

My immediate reaction is to respect that that any manufacturer has bothered to reply to anything on this forum.

Some do. Not sure we have heard from Warlord before.

Apologies if not so.

I agree, you were very clear that that the Czhapszchzaaaa look (there must be a right way to spell that) was for Grenadier Cos only.

And then there is the massive confusion. Duchy of Warsaw or Vistula Legion. Same thing? Naw….big time………..

How good that you have responded is my reaction. Respect, with three plusses……ie with 3 x +++

The heads are there, let us face it


Prof Pate16 Jun 2018 3:02 a.m. PST

I have a question

Can you buy the Capskaaaa heads separately?

Then you'd be able to fulfill all your tall, flattoped, square hat fantasies.



Prince of Essling Supporting Member of TMP16 Jun 2018 4:57 a.m. PST

Loads of pictures of the Vistula legion at the end of this document in Polish…. PDF link

Paul at Warlord Games Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Jun 2018 5:11 a.m. PST

Prof Pate wrote:

I have a question

Can you buy the Capskaaaa heads separately?

Then you'd be able to fulfill all your tall, flattoped, square hat fantasies.



Yes, as shown twice in this thread – you can find them here:



Paul Sawyer

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