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Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Jun 2018 7:18 a.m. PST

In 1808 a small battle was fought near Stralsund between Essen's Swedes and the French under Mortier. Other than multiple versions of one Wikipedia article I can find no details of this battle.

It sounds like an interesting reason to paint up a few Swedes.

Does anyone know where I might find some sort of info on this? The only "Belling" I find in the region is 124km from Stralsund and seems too far to fit the general narrative of the campaign from Wikipedia.

Any Swedish gamer here who might shed some light?

Rittmester06 Jun 2018 8:09 a.m. PST

@Extra Crispy
There is a booklet from the Nafziger collection which covers the operations in Northern Germany/Denmark in 1808-1809. I read some years ago, so I do not remember the Belling battle. I can try to find the book and check during the weekend (I do not have it available now).

Rittmester06 Jun 2018 8:30 a.m. PST

The US Army Staff College has the OOBs of the Nafziger collection.
See the index of the OOBs at PDF link

You will find relevant OOBs of both Danish, Swedish and French armies, e.g. Franco-Spanish Corps in Denmark, March 1808.

keithbarker06 Jun 2018 11:45 a.m. PST

I think you will find that Belling was 16 April 1807 – not 1808. It happened during the siege of Stralsund. The Swedes broke out from the siege on 1 April. The French attacked the Swedes at Uckermünde under Cardell and their right flank at Belling under Vegesacks and Baron Posse. The Swedes lost 677 men prisoner and a number of cannon. The French pushed back the post at Belling on the 16th prior to the Battle of Uckermünde on the 17th.

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keithbarker06 Jun 2018 12:27 p.m. PST

The action is described by Petre in Napoleon's Campaign in Poland p 264, 265 but without mentioning Belling or Posse.

From:
Svenska arméens fälttåg uti Tyskland och Norrige åren 1805, 1806, 1807 och 1808

The Swedish Army's campaign in Germany and Norway 1805, 1806, 1807 and 1808

On the 16th following in the morning, Vegesack's advance-guard commanded by lieutenant colonel Posse was attacked with great vigor by a far-superior hostile force. At the beginning, it was thought only a strong reconnaissance but from prisoners it was soon discovered that Marshal Mortier advanced in front of 12 to 15 000 men composed of the Grand Jean Division strengthend from the Colberg siege.

Lieutenant colonel Baron Posse who, under his command, had only 2 battalions of infantry, one of the Södermanland regiment and one of the Westgöta Dals regiment as well as 3 companies of jagers, one squadron of Mörnerska hussars and four 3-pounder canons retreated quite slowly back before the so superior enemy and while contesting the terrain.


So now you know which Swedes to paint up *smile*

Prince of Essling06 Jun 2018 2:17 p.m. PST

From the Swdeish Armemuseum:
West-Gotha Dals regiment

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Officer & soldier (1807 uniform)
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West-Gotha jager (1806 uniform)
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Mörnerska husarregementet (1808 uniform)
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According to an article in tradition magazine, the Södermanland regiment would have had a dark blue coat, yellow collar, lapels, shoulder straps, cuffs & turnbacks, brass buttons, white breeches & a brass hat band.

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Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Jun 2018 9:24 p.m. PST

Thanks guys!

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