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Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP31 May 2018 1:09 p.m. PST

… and I am most certainly one when it comes to this kind of thing. Knees AND feet on the table? Keep the smelling salts close, Deirdre, I'm having the vapors!


From the wonderful coverage provided by link

Some great looking games at Kubla Con.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP31 May 2018 1:28 p.m. PST

Too much ballast on that lad.
That is such bad etiquette, in my humble opinion.
When you can't reach, you walk over to the other side.

MajorB31 May 2018 1:34 p.m. PST

Crawling on the table should be banned!!

IronDuke596 Supporting Member of TMP31 May 2018 1:39 p.m. PST

Ditto the above!
Exquisite terrain and figures, barring Gulliver.

Personal logo The Beast Rampant Supporting Member of TMP31 May 2018 1:40 p.m. PST

Come on, that's an obvious fake, right up there with Nessie.

There's no plesiosaurs in Scotland, and no one ever climbed up on a lovely game table like that!

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP31 May 2018 1:42 p.m. PST

There is so much 'wrong' with that picture!

I tried to avert my eyes…

JimDuncanUK31 May 2018 1:59 p.m. PST

Has he no shame.

Show him the door.

roving bandit31 May 2018 2:15 p.m. PST

"When you can't reach, you walk over to the other side."

Those tables look awful deep from either table edge.

Yeah, following the link shows guys climbing all over that table. The guys putting it on must have expected it to happen.

Lord Ashram31 May 2018 2:16 p.m. PST

Looks great, but I know the damage just my sausage fingers can do… I can't IMAGINE the damage my entire BODY could do!!!:D

Personal logo StoneMtnMinis Supporting Member of TMP31 May 2018 2:24 p.m. PST

If you follow the link and go through the pictures you will get to one with 4 or 5 folks crawling on the table. So obviousily the GM was fine with it. Luckily, they must have been sturdy tables. grin

Personal logo 22ndFoot Supporting Member of TMP31 May 2018 2:38 p.m. PST

Hanging's too good for him!

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP31 May 2018 3:31 p.m. PST

Haven't seen that since maybe the early 1970's. And we were using much smaller, lighter wargamers. This, gentlemen, is why I keep droning on about arms' reach and table width--to avoid the tragedy which must inevitably ensue.

A table over 6' deep is a failure of game design.

darthfozzywig Supporting Member of TMP31 May 2018 4:22 p.m. PST

Impressive table.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP31 May 2018 5:15 p.m. PST

Doesn't look like you can reach the center without climbing on the table.

Dynaman878931 May 2018 6:16 p.m. PST

Talk about scale creep. And it is one of the worst sculpting jobs I've ever seen.

Rotundo31 May 2018 6:40 p.m. PST

I am so annoyed. Lol.

skinkmasterreturns01 Jun 2018 4:00 a.m. PST

In a more genteel time,hatches were built into the tables to avoid such embarrassment, or so I'm told.

Lucius01 Jun 2018 4:33 a.m. PST

He's moving the units by picking up the BASES, not by touching the figures themselves.

So he's good . . .

wargamingUSA01 Jun 2018 6:20 a.m. PST

…as robert notes above "A table over 6' deep is a failure of game design."

I've been very careful to never design a scenario that had a playing-area width over 6' because it truely is "the limit". That said, no one I know would ever climb about a game table as shown above.

Of note, given the range of normal human size, any width over 5' 6" presents a "reach" problem for a quite a number of gamers… and thats without any consideration of individual girth.

brucka01 Jun 2018 8:49 a.m. PST

Need WAAF plotters.

Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian01 Jun 2018 9:01 a.m. PST

We had a Leipzig game in the 90's that was on a 16x20 table (more like a stage/platform). "Napoleon" sat in the middle an all the Allies moved in from the edges. Corps had to march 6-12 feet to join battle.

Of course it was not this nice (IIRC the table was covered in burlap)

Personal logo Andrew Walters Supporting Member of TMP01 Jun 2018 9:12 a.m. PST

I watched that game on and off all day Saturday. I didn't see this, nor did I see the donnybrook that must have followed. I didn't even hear about the kerfuffle that must have ensued, which just goes to show how much was going on at KublaCon.

And to be fair that table was *big*. I have no idea how they moved figures from the center, which was unreachable from both sides.

Along the same lines and at the same time a mere ten yards away, I had a four story foams dungeon in which great fun was had, and afterwards some little girls came along to check it out. I wanted to let them see it and didn't chase them off, even though they wanted to play doll house with the figures. I regretted the decision when I saw the floors flexing under the weight of their tiny forearms, but luckily no hard was done.

The risks of running a convention event, I guess.

Roderick Robertson Fezian01 Jun 2018 10:05 a.m. PST

The table was 8x18.

Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP01 Jun 2018 10:48 a.m. PST

Aw, c'mon guys! The GM was nice enough to cover the table with fur to cushion the player's knees…

Seriously, the GM seems perfectly sanguine about the whole thing, since he's the one posting the photos on his blog. No harm, no foul.

My naval games are played on foam mats meant to be a floor covering, so I guess it would be okay to crawl on those (I let people put drinks on them all the time), but I would worry about the tables. I've seen more than one table break under the weight of a single gamer.

FWIW, I also consider 6' maximum table width to be a cardinal rule, but I accidentally violated it myself last weekend. I required a 6'x8' table, I got a 5'x16', so I reconfigured to a 8'x10.5'. It was a PITA to reach the middle (and I did much of that on behalf of my players), but in the end it worked well enough.

- Ix

TSD10101 Jun 2018 11:00 a.m. PST

Is this considered a war crime? I'd have to say yes.

Personal logo Andrew Walters Supporting Member of TMP01 Jun 2018 12:21 p.m. PST

It *looked* bigger than 8x18, but obviously if there is one person who's going to know *exactly* how big that table is, their name would be Roderick Robertson.

Great job by the way! That miniatures room ran smoother than smooth and when you throw in the additional prize stash (on top of the regular Kubla Con prizes) the miniatures room ran not only better than you could expect, but it was better than you could hope! But I was only there Friday and Saturday. Maybe Sunday was a train wreck. But Friday and Saturday were fantastic.

But if it's only eight feet wide there's no excuse for joining in the battle, even if you have the uniform right and I don't think those sneakers are period.

Oberlindes Sol LIC01 Jun 2018 6:34 p.m. PST

On the plus side, he wasn't wearing his pants plumber-style and giving us TMI about his underthings. So we thank him for that bit of politeness.

dapeters04 Jun 2018 9:59 a.m. PST

I guess it not that folding gaming table on kick-starter from a couple weeks ago

shthar04 Jun 2018 12:32 p.m. PST

Can anyone find out what brand of tables those were?

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