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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP26 May 2018 11:56 a.m. PST

…. Marshal von Rundstedt Threw Back the First Allied Break Through.

"In September 1944, American troops broke through Germany's toughest defensive line. The Germans were saved from disaster by a hard-drinking field marshal who reacted faster than his subordinates. It was a small triumph for them in the face of the Allied advance that would eventually end the Second World War…."
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Fred Cartwright26 May 2018 2:12 p.m. PST

Thanks for the link. The article further down the page about the B-25 for sale was good. Beautifully preserved aircraft.

Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP27 May 2018 3:17 a.m. PST

Agree Fred and some great shots for the aircraft modelers here of the cockpit area.

Katzbalger27 May 2018 4:00 a.m. PST

Wasn't this the battle of the Huertgen (can't remember the name of the three towns on the other side of the forest)--or am I getting my timeline of the 28th's tour of Europe confused? If the same battle (or part of it), the odds-and ends rounded up for the battle included units allocated to the upcoming attack in the Ardennes, which the local commanders were not allowed to use on their own initiative anyway, so somewhat misleading.

And last I had read, the 28th ID was known as the Bloody Bucket, never heard it referred to as the Victory Division--have I just been reading the wrong histories?.

I remember putting together and running a scenario on this
using Spearhead many years ago.


Marc33594 Supporting Member of TMP27 May 2018 6:59 a.m. PST

I think the article has a few problems. One official nickname for the 95th infantry division was the "Victory Division" but the 95th was not committed to battle until October of 1944, with IIIrd corps and not in the area in the article.

Official nicknames for the 28th were "Keystone" and "Iron Division" and, unoffically, "Bloody Bucket" but never Victory Division. Only possible link I can see is Vth corps, due to the roman "V" in its designation, was referred to as "Victory Corps".

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP27 May 2018 2:16 p.m. PST

No mention my friend.


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