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Winston Smith21 May 2018 12:56 p.m. PST

In "Turn" (Hey give me a break! No incorrect tanks! Not one!") Simcoe is shown in dark green regimentals, wearing the distinct unit hat.
As an officer, would he be wearing the famous QR cap, or a normal cocked hat like British Light Infantry or Grenadier officers would wear?
Given the slightest encouragement, I have a spare mounted officer or two, razor saw and a pin vise and I'm not afraid to use them.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP21 May 2018 2:05 p.m. PST

OK, the true wargamer's answer is that you can get away with either one. No one was that much a stickler for regulation in the AWI. I ran a quick search and only found two contemporary paintings of Simcoe. Both were in red coat and no hat visible. But we have paintings of both Banastre Tarleton and George Hanger in green coats with Tarletons, so Simcoe in a green coat and a QR hat is certainly plausible, and if I had to guess, I'd say that was what he wore historically.

(In irregular warfare with a higher percentage of rifles, you should give titles to officers who wear coats of a different color than their men, and a distinctive hat. They should be called "the late.")

22ndFoot21 May 2018 2:28 p.m. PST

Here he is in green regimentals but, again, no hat:

Of course, this is a bit later and he he wearing his own hair – as was the fashion – and not the wig, so beloved on film makers, that would have been more common on his opponents.

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP21 May 2018 2:42 p.m. PST

I'm in the process of painting a "new" figure for my Col. Simcoe, using a 25mm MiniFig Queen's Ranger hussar officer. He's in a green tailed coat and will be wearing the hussar busby with the silver crescent. May not be totally accurate but its my army.


Red Jacket Supporting Member of TMP22 May 2018 8:00 a.m. PST

He really needs a hair cut.

Winston Smith22 May 2018 9:12 a.m. PST

I just got yet another bag of Old Glory Queens Rangers.
I have an unpainted British officer to receive a QR head, preferably from an officer, and said officer will receive a Grenadier head.

historygamer22 May 2018 11:02 a.m. PST

Interesting question since it was a Legion unit and had foot, horse and artillery.

Winston Smith22 May 2018 12:19 p.m. PST

I've never seen any artillery included in any OOB for the QR.
Although it would be neat to have artillerists in green with that cap, I think they just had RA attached to them when needed.
I could be wrong.

historygamer22 May 2018 7:05 p.m. PST

I believe they did. I'll look. Or it couldn't have been another Loyalist unit I am thinking of.

Winston Smith22 May 2018 8:34 p.m. PST

Cool. That would be neat.
As I said on another thread, I have a razor saw and a pin vise and I'm not afraid to use them.

Doug MSC Supporting Member of TMP23 May 2018 9:21 a.m. PST

I have Simcoe in the QR cap and also have their Cav. and Artillery with the Inf. I have all four types of companies in the Infantry too. Of course they are our favorite 40mm Trident Figures, but that shouldn't stop you from doing them all in 28mm

Winston Smith23 May 2018 10:24 a.m. PST

So, Doug.
Are you saying that your artillerists have the QR cap?
Have razor saw, will convert!

Doug MSC Supporting Member of TMP23 May 2018 9:01 p.m. PST

Yes, I put the QR Cap on my artillerymen also. Why not??? They are now a unique Legion. I love the license we can take!!!

Winston Smith23 May 2018 9:04 p.m. PST

We have plausible deniability in the AWI.

22ndFoot24 May 2018 2:08 p.m. PST

I just found this picture, purportedly of Simcoe in 1785, admittedly a bit late, in a hat which looks like a Tarleton:


redcoat24 May 2018 10:10 p.m. PST

That last post surely is George HAnger of the British Legion:

historygamer25 May 2018 8:00 a.m. PST

Wow. Interesting man.

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