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gamer115 May 2018 11:40 a.m. PST

First, disclaimer, this is a question of casual interest and conversation, no hard core info. As I continue to try and learn more about the period in general I continue to learn about all kinds of "famous" units that did things above and beyond what was expected or thought possible.
That being said I am sure most if not all of you have a favorite story and unit or two you have learned about that has stuck with you. I am curious about them and hopefully will learn something new. On a side note I know history doesn't like to mention it much but does anyone know of a unit that is famous for being a real disappointment or making a major unexpected fail? Like a Guard unit that turned out to be no better than militia even though they were well lead, trained, etc.
So…….to start things off, I have two favorites I have heard/read about from more than one source, so I assume is true, feel free to correct me:) First, the Russian Pavlov Grenadiers, why? I understand they are the only infantry unit that was willing to and did charge cavalry. Considering they had to be veterans, they had to know it was suicide but they did it anyway. My understanding is they took horrible losses but rescued cut off units, during Borodino I think? To me, that has to take all kinds of………..you know what. In my mind, in most ways they were just as good as any French Old Guard unit.
Second is the French Old Guard Hoarse Artillery. From what I understand, not only were they basically twice as fast with their guns than any other unit of the same but once, when threatened by Cav, they mounted up, drew swords and charged the enemy Cav, drove them off and then went back to their guns and continued their famous "work".
So, there yah go, my two. I know there are countless more……….?

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP15 May 2018 11:41 a.m. PST

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