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07 May 2018 11:18 a.m. PST
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Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP07 May 2018 9:29 a.m. PST

MASH-UP IDEA CHALLENGE:
What if the bad guys in M7 (1960) had been actual grey aliens harassing Mexican peasants … could you come up with a way to game THAT? Would you be able to SciFi or Pulpi-SciFi that scenario?

A) Would "Calvera" and the gang still ride horses, or would you let them ride in on more tech?
B) And what would the Greys demand of the Mexican villagers?
C) Would the M7 need additional help to overcome this foe, or would their hot lead suffice? Or would they need to eventually bring with them the combined US and Mexican armies?
D) Or would the only change be Calvera himself, as a Grey Alien leading otherwise normal human Mexican bandidos, against normal human Mexican peasants?
E) What Rules would you use
F) Anything else?

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robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP07 May 2018 9:44 a.m. PST

Already done. It's called "Battle Beyond the Stars."

The count I know of:
The Seven Samurai
The Magnificent Seven
The Seven Magnificent Gladiators
Battle Beyond the Stars
At least one official D&D scenario. (The party consisted of Seven paladins. I think the bandits were orcs.)

What have I missed?

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP07 May 2018 9:47 a.m. PST

Ha! Yes, but how many of those were done in the Old West, with the ONLY change being the Bandidos as Alien Greys?

Just think of this as some variation on the basic Cowboys and Aliens concept.

Dan
PS. Wow, Robert, was there really a "The Seven Magnificent Gladiators" movie? LOL

Stryderg07 May 2018 10:28 a.m. PST

The grey gang would ride small open-topped tripod styled walkers. About as fast as a horse and vulnerable to ditches and holes.

The greys would be after the cattle. We all know how much they like cattle.

Hot lead, wielded by professional gunslingers is enough to solve most of these types of problems.

The greys would need a spaceship nearby. So you could link some scenarios: scout the location of the spaceship (their hideout). Each time a scouting mission fails, the town suffers a raid and looses some cattle. Once it's found, the town suffers a major attack. Counter attack at the spaceship. Victory points awarded based on how many cattle are saved/lost and how much damage is done to the town/spaceship.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP07 May 2018 10:39 a.m. PST

Stryderg

I love your idea of a hidden ship as their hideou!

Dan
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ZULUPAUL Supporting Member of TMP07 May 2018 1:47 p.m. PST

The Magnificent Seven would give those "stinkin greys" the whats for in my opinion!

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP07 May 2018 2:53 p.m. PST

Dan, I find your lack of faith disturbing.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086289

And I still wonder how many I've missed.

For that matter, how many go with
Red Harvest
Yojimbo
Last Man Standing
The Sharp End (SF novel)
Omega Doom
???

gisbygeo07 May 2018 3:00 p.m. PST

Oddly enough, Robert Vaughan played the same character in 'Magnificent Seven' and 'Battle beyond the Stars'

Sybil Danning played the same character in'Battle beyond the Stars' and in 'Magnificent Seven Gladiators'

Crazyivanov07 May 2018 6:21 p.m. PST

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An early part of Marvel's Star Wars run, Han Solo puts together a group of guys called the Star Hoppers who fight an evil space bandito. An Ancient Sith Warbeast gets involved. Heaps of fun, back when things were good.

The Shadow08 May 2018 6:48 a.m. PST

Robert

I don't understand why people keep associating "Red Harvest" with "Yojimbo". I've seen/read both of them at least twice, and the only similarity is that there were two factions. Kurosawa himself said that his inspiration for at least one of the scenes was the film "The Glass Key". Nothing else.

Roderick Robertson Fezian08 May 2018 9:06 a.m. PST

Adding to the "Seven X" titles:

The King Arthur movie based on the idea of Sarmatian heavy cavalry (King Arthur, 2004) had seven knights (Arthur, Lancelot, Bors, Gawain, Tristan, Galahad and Dagonet) going north of the Wall to rescue people. (And Saxons with crossbows, and Keira Knightly in a leather bra as Guenivere, and all sort of other silliness). You can even map the knights onto the M7 as to who dies.

I call it "The Magnificent Seven Go North" when I bother to remember it at all.

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robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP09 May 2018 3:53 p.m. PST

Shadow, ignorance on my part. I haven't seen Yojmbo, but heard it referred to as one of the set. My guess would be someone connect "two factions" and "Dashiel Hammett" and took it from there.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP10 May 2018 9:42 a.m. PST

Okayyy … this has been so,e detour. :)

So how many "Cowboys and Aliens" scenarios can you guys think of?

Dan

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