| photocrinch | 05 May 2018 6:59 p.m. PST |
I was touring Chickamauga today and had hoped to see this kind of cannon so I could show it to a friend. They have a ton of them on display at the Stones River Battlefield, and despite extensive searching on the web I have been unable to find out more details. Is it just a stumpy parrott with a longer collar? What gives? link
Thanks in advance,
David |
Shagnasty  | 05 May 2018 7:07 p.m. PST |
It is a Wiard steel rifle. I think it came in 6 and 10 lb models. They were not common but seem to have more been widely used in the Western Federal armies |
| photocrinch | 05 May 2018 7:15 p.m. PST |
Man that was fast. Thanks! |
| Wackmole9 | 05 May 2018 7:17 p.m. PST |
Hi MY guess is a 12 pdr. Blakely Rifle, but i was wrong. |
| photocrinch | 05 May 2018 7:27 p.m. PST |
But close, looking at the similarities I can see why you would have thought that. link David |
| Wackmole9 | 05 May 2018 7:43 p.m. PST |
Ok I have a Mystery gun for the brain trust that is TMP What is this gun from Fort Garland CO imgur.com/a/JC4QybQ |
 StoneMtnMinis | 05 May 2018 9:35 p.m. PST |
Do you have a photo of the breech? |
| bsrlee | 05 May 2018 10:02 p.m. PST |
StoneMtns – you have to scroll down, there are more pictures below, including the breach and one with a human for scale. |
ScottWashburn  | 06 May 2018 4:04 a.m. PST |
There are a number of the Wiard rifles at the Shiloh park, too. Apparently they are pronounced like 'weird' :) |
| Extrabio1947 | 06 May 2018 4:35 a.m. PST |
Wackmole…that looks like a Krupp Mountain gun. |
| Wackmole9 | 06 May 2018 8:17 a.m. PST |
HI Thanks fro clearing that up. Even the ranger at the fort didn't know what it was. It is missing parts. |
| DisasterWargamer | 06 May 2018 8:30 a.m. PST |
I dont believe it is a Krupp – Need to do some more research |
| Ed Mohrmann | 07 May 2018 9:30 a.m. PST |
Wackmole, the closest I've come to your mystery gun
is the Broadwell mountain gun. It is the only one
I've found which has a split trail ala a Napoleonic
period gun, but the Broadwell doesn't have a screw-
breech, rather it is among the first to have a sliding
block breech which makes sense since it was built
by a group of German immigrants in the Midwest and
IIRC the Germans pioneered the sliding block breech. The period is right for a gun of that type to have seen
service 1875-1900 since the Broadwell was developed
late 1860's. I did find one image very close to your photo's, but
couldn't find one showing the breech of the gun.
Interestingly enough, it was from a museum in Namibia,
which of course used to be German Southwest Africa.
The gun in that museum looks very much like your front
photo but as I said can't see the breech or trail. |
| 138SquadronRAF | 07 May 2018 1:31 p.m. PST |
It's a Wiard rifle, as was pointed out by Shagnasty. Here's some supporting evidence: link link link link |
| DisasterWargamer | 07 May 2018 8:23 p.m. PST |
Wackmole The thing throwing me is in most of mountain guns with a front sight it is on the same side as the crank handle on right hand side Your mystery gun has the front sight on the left Still looking |
| Ed Mohrmann | 08 May 2018 10:01 a.m. PST |
That sight placement has me bugged as well,
DW. Wackmole, did the museum staff have any idea what
parts are missing from the piece ? |
| 138SquadronRAF | 10 May 2018 9:41 a.m. PST |
Re the Mystery Gun. Several things strike me: 1. Narrow carriage indicates a Mountain Gun.
2. Metal carriage of that design indicates a late 19thC or early 20thC.
3. Photograph doesn't allow examination of makers marker on the end of the trunnions. These may give clues as to origin.
4. Looks about 75/76mm bore, indicating a round of 3.6 to 4.5kg round.
5. The off-set sight is similar to that used on the Krupp mountain gun, but on that gun the sights are on the other side of the gun. jamesdjulia.com/item/1427-369 link |
| xanthippus | 24 May 2018 5:01 p.m. PST |
Wiard rifles had special carriages to allow more to be packed on a rail car |
prepares to do some regimental-level ACW gaming.
