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Foxtrot43702 May 2018 10:07 a.m. PST

Hi! Like I ask in the subject, where can I buy DBA 3.0 (I'm in the US, so AmazonUK doesn't help) or 2.2+ rules? Thanks!

Dervel Fezian02 May 2018 10:34 a.m. PST

On Military Matters stocks 3.0 in the US, It usually pops up on eBay from time to time. At Little Wars I saw a copy in the flea market in mint condition for $25. USD

So you might check e-bay too.

2.2 is out in e-book form, but I think for a hard copy you need to look for the newer history of DBA or an old copy in the flea markets and eBay.

2.2+ is a house set of rules for modifying the 2.2 which you would need to find as a download somewhere.

lkmjbc302 May 2018 10:44 a.m. PST

You can also find a version for new players on Amazon (US and UK).


This version has the full rules, an example game, advice on building armies, terrain, and camp. It has only partial army lists, but a greatly expanded background for those lists. I would recommend the electronic version as it is in color.

Joe Collins

lkmjbc302 May 2018 10:49 a.m. PST

On Military Matters is found here…


They also carry the hardcopy version of the version I mentioned above.

Joe Collins

arsbelli02 May 2018 11:38 a.m. PST

The folks who wrote the "Unofficial Guide" and DBA v2.2+ house rules have since gone on to develop their own Ancients rule set, entitled Triumph!:

Foxtrot43702 May 2018 12:31 p.m. PST

Thanks for the responses so far.

What are the differences between DBA 3.0 and ue Laflin-Barker's Start Ancient Wargaming Using Dba 3.0?

I'll look into Triumph, but would also appreciate being pointed to where I can download the Unofficial Guide and 2.2+

Dervel Fezian02 May 2018 2:06 p.m. PST

Sue's book is supposed to have all the rules, but not all the armies. So it is sufficient to start playing.

Fanaticus was relocated to this site:

I think they moved a lot of the old info over to this site as well. You will want to go there to get more info on 3.0.

As mentioned above the guys that wrote the original Guide and the 2.2+ Modified rules moved on to Triumph. So the original website that supported all of that and the original forum (Fanaticus) site for previous versions of DBA are dead now.

This site has the 2.2+ stuff preserved:
PDF link

If you are looking for Triumph info the forum is here:


You can buy it as a downloadable PDF at Wargame Vault for $15 USD

lkmjbc302 May 2018 3:04 p.m. PST

"Start Ancient Wargaming Using DBA 3.0"

Has the full rules…
An example game…
Suggestions on building an army
Sections on building terrain and camps
Chapters introducing various popular periods along with the army lists.

What it lacks…
Full complement of army lists…
The diagrams that show examples…

The pdf/epub version is recommended.

This book is an update of the original "Purple Primer" on ancient wargaming published 40? years ago by the Barkers.

I hope that helps.

Joe Collins

Personal logo jhancock Supporting Member of TMP02 May 2018 4:50 p.m. PST

DBA 3.0 is supposed to see another round of publication in the near future.

The Wargames Room02 May 2018 4:55 p.m. PST

Just ordered another copy of the full rules from Blackhat in the UK the other day.

lkmjbc302 May 2018 5:57 p.m. PST

It is in stock at OMM.

Joe Collins

jwebster03 May 2018 12:33 p.m. PST

Start Ancient Wargaming Using DBA 3.0

The only problem with this book is that you will have to get the 3.0 book anyway to get the full army lists


Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP03 May 2018 3:34 p.m. PST

The book by Sue is worth getting, even if you have the full rules,

From On Military Matters

2-34560 Barker, Phil & Laflin-Barker, Sue

DBA Wargames rules for Ancient & Medieval Battle from 3000BC to 1500AD, simple, fast play.

This new Version 3.0 further refines the game system and features an expanded set of army lists detailing hundreds of armies, supported by detailed notes to inspire and inform new and veteran players alike.1 vol, 144 pgs 2014 UK, Wargames Research Group Ltd
NEW-hardcover, back in stock ……$42.00


Foxtrot43704 May 2018 4:13 a.m. PST

Of the links above (and what I've found with Google), I've found the WADBAG Unoffical Guide to 2.2+, but all of the links to the 2.2+ rules/amendments are dead.

Dervel Fezian04 May 2018 4:42 a.m. PST

Yup, all those old sites are dead most of us moved on to Triumph.

That guide is enough to play, it contains all the changes.

However, if you want the other stuff I can e-mail it to you. I still have copies of the files.

Foxtrot43704 May 2018 6:29 a.m. PST

Dervel – I'd appreciate them. Do the forums have a way to directly pm members, or should I post my email here?

Dervel Fezian04 May 2018 7:30 a.m. PST

You can PM here, but only as a paying member…

Or you can PM me on the Triumph Forum? (Rod – is my username)

Which is free to join.

CeruLucifus05 May 2018 9:02 a.m. PST

Black Hat Miniatures has DBA 3.0. Go to , select Shop / Product Categories , then click Rules .

I just ordered HOTT 2.1 from them; this will be my first DBA game and first order from Black Hat so I can't speak from experience yet.

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