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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP30 Apr 2018 11:40 a.m. PST


"Whilst the Spanish Civil War has been seen by many as a rehearsal for WW2, and it did see the deployment of weapon systems and techniques used in that conflict, by and large the actual fighting bore much more relationship to WW1. Tactically combat was dominated by machine guns, entrenchments and massed infantry attacks. Artillery support was generally quite limited, and although tanks were present in increasing numbers as the war progressed, many were little more effective than their W.W.I predecessors, apart from greater mobility and reliability. The few attempts at independent armoured operations were disastrous failures as the lightly armoured tanks of the time outran their infantry support and were shot to bits by field and anti-tank guns. The main innovation was the increased use of air support, both in the form of tactical air strikes, and in terror bombing.

A pre-war Peninsular Army infantry division had two infantry brigades, each of two regiments, each regiment with four battalions. The battalions had four rifle and one machine gun company. There was also an artillery brigade with two artillery grupos, each of three batteries. Cavalry regiments had four squadrons and a machine gun squadron. During the war, many units operated in more ad-hoc formations, especially the Republicans. Both sides tended to operate in "columns", forces of indeterminate size, designated by their commanders name, but roughly brigade sized forces. More formally, the brigade replaced the regiment as the primary tactical formation, and these could be composed of anything between two and five battalions. Divisions became groupings of columns and brigades.
Battalion sizes were generally far below establishment, but the proportion of automatic weapons (sub, light and heavy machine-guns) was considerably higher than comparable WW1 formations, even amongst militia units. Other heavy weapons were in short supply, especially mortars and tanks (a total of twenty in the whole of Spain in July 1936!), although field and anti-tank artillery was more plentiful. Whilst high hopes were entertained for the role of armour in the war, the new "wonder weapon" turned out to be the current generation of Russian and German anti-tank guns, both the Pak 36 and Russian M-35 37mm AT gun proved to be extremely effective against the tanks employed at that time. The superpower backers of each side did contribute considerable amounts of equipment, especially trucks, tanks, artillery and aircraft. The Italians even committed four weak divisions of ground troops, including the only fully motorised division in the war, however the bulk of support given to both sides was in the form of cadres and advisers. The overall degree of motorization was very low, and both sides improvised transport from any vehicles which came to hand. The TO&Es below can be used to derive appropriate ratios of artillery and machine-guns…"
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Cacique Caribe30 Apr 2018 11:43 a.m. PST

Mexicanski? Lol

PS. All I can think of is their Mariachi ski racer outfits. The one thing missing was the hat.



Bunkermeister Supporting Member of TMP30 Apr 2018 2:27 p.m. PST

A Mexican version of AK47 or of the Spanish Civil War might have been kind of cool as a wargame, but this link is all about the Spanish Civil War with no connection to Mexico.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek

Cacique Caribe30 Apr 2018 3:00 p.m. PST

And I don't know of too many Mexican nationals making it all the way over there either, to the SCW. In fact I only know of one.

PS. A modern Cuban Civil War (or even a Mexican Civil War) would make for a very interesting game though.
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Personal logo jhancock Supporting Member of TMP30 Apr 2018 4:04 p.m. PST

But a fair amount of equipment reached the Republic from Mexico, including Remington Moisant-Nagant rifles, hence the term Mexicanski '36 (as opposed to the other Rules for the Common Man game AK-47 Republic)

Cacique Caribe30 Apr 2018 4:58 p.m. PST

Well, THAT'S certainly something I didn't know!



Walking Sailor30 Apr 2018 6:02 p.m. PST

I know of one that went the other way, Spain to Mexico: Ramón Mercader link

Major B30 Apr 2018 6:40 p.m. PST

About 140 Mexicans fought on the Republican side during the SCW. A couple came from the US. The initial rifles issued to the Abbraham Lincoln BN were Remington made rifles that were produced for the Imperial Russian Army, then sold to the Mexican government who in turn sold them to the Republican Army. It is a fascinating period.

Martin Rapier30 Apr 2018 10:46 p.m. PST

Yes, I called the rules that after the Mexican produced rifles used by the Republicans.

I wrote them a very, very long time ago!

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP01 May 2018 10:39 a.m. PST



Dashetal01 May 2018 1:15 p.m. PST

As Martin said. its old news.

Personal logo jhancock Supporting Member of TMP01 May 2018 1:57 p.m. PST

Martin: "How long ago was it?"

Waiting for the punch line…

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