| Razor78 | 25 Apr 2018 8:09 a.m. PST |
So at what level would the M557 command vehicles be used? And would the Marines use them or just Army? |
| shaun from s and s models | 25 Apr 2018 8:48 a.m. PST |
marines don't use m113 based vehicles, not sure what level they are used in ty if at all. |
| FABET01 | 25 Apr 2018 10:16 a.m. PST |
You start seeing the M557s at Battalion level. |
| Onomarchos | 25 Apr 2018 10:16 a.m. PST |
With few exceptions, the lowest level where you would find M577s would have been in the Main and Rear CPs of US Army Battalions/Squadrons. The two M577s of the S2 and S3 would form the main CP and the S4 vehicles would form the rear CP. Most battalion forward CPs would have been in jeeps. Of course, you would also find M577s at the Brigade level. The bottom line is that you should never really see M577s on the TY game board. Mark |
| ScottS | 25 Apr 2018 10:48 a.m. PST |
Marines never used M577s. If you want a command vehicle, look up the AAVC-7A1. It's a P-7 without a turret, stuffed with radios.
(The November flag brings back memories.) |
miscmini  | 25 Apr 2018 10:56 a.m. PST |
Also see -577s as the Fire Direction Centers (FDC) in Armor BN 4.2" Mortar Platoons. |
mckrok  | 25 Apr 2018 11:51 a.m. PST |
IIRC, Armored Cavalry troops (company level) used the M577 as a troop CP. I'm pretty sure that's the lowest echelon you'd ever find one. Otherwise, you'd find them at Bn and higher as a CP, tactical operations center (TOC) and one for the medical and mortar platoons in maneuver units. I lived in one for a time of my life as an artilleryman. pjm |
 Legion 4  | 25 Apr 2018 3:15 p.m. PST |
With few exceptions, the lowest level where you would find M577s would have been in the Main and Rear CPs of US Army Battalions/Squadrons. The two M577s of the S2 and S3 would form the main CP and the S4 vehicles would form the rear CP. Most battalion forward CPs would have been in jeeps. Of course, you would also find M577s at the Brigade level. The bottom line is that you should never really see M577s on the TY game board. Yes, that was my experience as well in the 3 Mech Bns I served with '84-'90 … marines don't use m113 based vehicles, True, however in Vietnam one USMC unit did have a few they borrowed temporarily from an ARVN unit. |
| ScottS | 25 Apr 2018 3:23 p.m. PST |
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| Legion 4 | 26 Apr 2018 6:30 a.m. PST |
That is the way I heard/read about it … so …  Blast from the TMP past … M113s in the USMC… Borrowed from the ARVN … link |
| Lion in the Stars | 26 Apr 2018 9:36 p.m. PST |
I think Dave Drake wrote that his Battalion Intelligence Collection Center (BICC, like the pen), had a 577 and a trailer. Again, that's battalion level, theoretically the step above what gets played in Team Yankee. Otherwise, the artillery FDCs have them. |
| Legion 4 | 27 Apr 2018 7:37 a.m. PST |
Yeah, never saw an M577 below Bn level. I had one in my S4 Sec. in the ROK. But the Div Cdr gave it to the ADA Bn … As a side bar. The 577 is much taller than the M113. Which on a tactical level, i.e. Plt or Co., is not really an "advantage". Harder to hide, generally … Some of my 6mm Slammer AFVs. Drake got with John Treadaway, etc. and approved these designs. So we can see where her got idea/concept for the Slammer version of the M577 and the M113 ACAV.
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