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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP19 Apr 2018 8:14 p.m. PST

"The Takeda was a famous clan of daimy (feudal lords) in Japan's late Heian Period to Sengoku period. The Takeda were descendants of Emperor Seiwa (850-880) and are a branch of the Minamoto clan (Seiwa Genji), by Minamoto no Yoshimitsu (1056-1127), brother to the Chinjufu-shogun Minamoto no Yoshiie (1039-1106). Minamoto no Yoshikiyo, son of Yoshimitsu, was the first to take the name of Takeda.

In the 12th century, at the end of the Heian period, the Takeda family controlled Kai Province. Along with a number of other families, they aided their cousin Minamoto no Yoritomo against the Taira clan in the Genpei War. When Minamoto no Yoritomo was first defeated at Ishibashiyama (1181), Takeda Nobuyoshi was applied for help and the Takeda sent an army of 20,000 men to support Yoritomo. Takeda Nobumitsu (1162-1248), helped the Hj during the Shkyu War (1221) and in reward received the governorship of Aki province. Until the Sengoku period, the Takeda were shugo of Kai, Aki and Wakasa provincies. In 1415, they helped to suppress the rebellion of Uesugi Zensh; Ashikaga Mochiuji, Uesugi's lord, and the man the rebellion was organized against, made a reprisal against the Takeda, thus beginning the rivalry between the Uesugi and Takeda families, which would last roughly 150 years…."
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takeda33321 Apr 2018 9:54 a.m. PST

Very nice and thank you.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP22 Apr 2018 2:34 p.m. PST

A votre service mon ami!. (smile)


Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP09 May 2018 2:37 p.m. PST

………Shingen transformed his samurai from archers to lancers, and used the cavalry charge to devastating effect at the Battle of Mikatagahara in 1572. The strength of Shingen's new tactic became so famous that the Takeda army came to be known as the kiba gundan, or 'mounted army.' Shingen died in 1573, at age 53, from illness. His less tactically talented son, Katsuyori, succeeded him, and was defeated in 1575, in the famous battle of Nagashino, by Oda Nobunaga.

I'm not sure that's fair to Katsuyori. He utilized the Takeda Cavalry at Nagashino, the same way Shingen would have. Oda Nobunaga expected that and deployed his troops accordingly. I suspect Shingen would have been handily defeated had he been alive and in command. Oda was just too innovative.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP12 May 2018 8:35 p.m. PST

Thanks for the info!…


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