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Tango0119 Apr 2018 12:06 p.m. PST

DA BUG…….

Last Hussar19 Apr 2018 12:07 p.m. PST

How dense would you base skirmishers? Its for Regiment if foot (original set)

I'm using 10mm, bases are 30mm square. Musket bases are 3-4 ranks deep, many in a 3-2-3-2 formation .

Last Hussar19 Apr 2018 12:07 p.m. PST

How dense would you base skirmishers? Its for Regiment if foot (original set)

I'm using 10mm, bases are 30mm square. Musket bases are 3-4 ranks deep, many in a 3-2-3-2 formation .

Phillius Sponsoring Member of TMP19 Apr 2018 12:56 p.m. PST

Was skirmishing a "thing" in the ECW? I don't recall reading about it anywhere?

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP19 Apr 2018 1:44 p.m. PST

"Commanded" muskets were often gathered on an ad hoc basis for certain missions such as the 1000+ on each side to seize Cheriton Wood. There were also "forlorn hopes" to lead in an assault or screen the frontage of formations before formal advances were made, so, yes there was skirmishing during that era.

Lion in the Stars19 Apr 2018 2:39 p.m. PST

I'd only put 2-3 models on a base for skirmishers.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP19 Apr 2018 6:02 p.m. PST

Hmm. I wouldn't regard commanded shot or forlorns as skirmishers--just small units of shot or pike--mostly shot. My understanding is they wouldn't normally be fewer ranks or greater interval than other musketeers. I take it these rules disagree with me?

The Tin Dictator19 Apr 2018 8:44 p.m. PST

I agree with Robert.
The closest thing to skirmishers in the ECW "might" be dismounted dragoons.
But I've never read about what most people think of as skirmishers (a la Napoleonics) in the ECW.

4DJones20 Apr 2018 1:18 a.m. PST

Plenty of skirmishes, but not skirmishers.

Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP20 Apr 2018 3:14 a.m. PST

I've also not encountered skirmishers- just smaller units of shotte.

Guillaume deGuy20 Apr 2018 7:13 a.m. PST

Tristamdamores said
"Plenty of skirmishes, but not skirmishers"
That's a really good expression of my sense of it.

Functionally some small units were often doing something that looked like what later skirmishers would do. Don't think they were neccessarly in the open order, we now think of, however. Horse were sometimes used in this role also.

To the OP question. I like to represent Dragoons and Forlorns with fewer figures per base (1/2 or 3/4) than Shot as a reminder that many rules give them certain advantages.

Last Hussar20 Apr 2018 11:09 p.m. PST

Skirmishers are a small part of the rules, 3 or 4 bases in each army, not the cloud of Lights screening the main lines, basically a small group sent off to annoy.

Last Hussar28 Apr 2018 4:54 p.m. PST

Having read the rules again, and looked at the answers here I'm going for full density, but only half the ranks:
I put 10-12 on a normal musket base in 4 rows; I'm going to put just 2 rows, replacing the rear 2 ranks with a horse holder across the width of the base – I was wondering what to do with these, and the casting is just the right width!

I think I'll snip the support pole off, and maybe shorten the musket a touch to make them carbines.

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