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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP18 Apr 2018 3:38 p.m. PST

"The relationship between Greece and Turkey has never been easy. The neighboring countries have been at war with each other several times in the 20th century and were close to military conflict over the Greek islet Imia in 1996, before the United States stepped in to avert disaster.

The NATO allies are now at the brink again, goaded by populists on both sides and this time, Washington is nowhere to be found.

On Monday, a Greek-Turkish confrontation rekindled old memories. Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim, during an event in Ankara, claimed that the Turkish coast guard had removed a Greek flag from an islet near the island of Fournoi, after it was placed there earlier by three Greeks. The Hellenic National Defense General Staff responded that no Turkish boat had been seen in the area in the last 48 hours; the mayor of Fournoi then visited the islet and reported that the Greek flag was still there…."
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paulgenna Supporting Member of TMP18 Apr 2018 4:46 p.m. PST

No, they have been doing this for years.

Oberlindes Sol LIC18 Apr 2018 8:54 p.m. PST

The Greeks and the Turks were at it 200 years ago. I think the British were supposed to be ones calming them down.

ancientsgamer Supporting Member of TMP18 Apr 2018 9:59 p.m. PST

Actually Turkey went bonkers in the last administration.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP18 Apr 2018 10:14 p.m. PST

Did they ever stop? They just have lots of little pauses.


PMC31719 Apr 2018 1:23 a.m. PST

Well, given the Greeks have been fighting various Eastern Mediterranean powers since, er, several centuries BCE…

…I'm not holding my breath that this is a lasting peace between the New Ottomans and the Greeks.

Bindon Blood19 Apr 2018 7:33 a.m. PST

has the Greek economy recovered enough that they can afford a war?

Personal logo Andrew Walters Supporting Member of TMP19 Apr 2018 9:24 a.m. PST

This is an interesting question. It's hard to imagine them going to war for any number of reasons, but that thinking is limited by rationality. Both countries have plenty of other problems, and both are going through significant political changes. It's possible in all the turmoil that a moment could occur where the politicians in charge, thinking about themselves and not their countries and their people, could see armed conflict as a means to some other end. That doesn't seem likely to me, but stranger things have happened. Here's hoping rationality limits everyone's thinking.

Lion in the Stars19 Apr 2018 2:21 p.m. PST

Yeah, not sure this is really news. I'm sure the Greeks are trying to rattle the sabers to try to kick up defense spending, which does have the advantage of in-country job creation.

Personal logo Lost Wolf Supporting Member of TMP22 Apr 2018 9:40 a.m. PST

Does Turkey get along with anyone?

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP23 Apr 2018 4:20 p.m. PST

Wait, what just happened? The discussion was moving along much better than many others.


per ardua24 Apr 2018 3:12 p.m. PST

I was in Cyprus during the 1996 stand off. Lots of twitching going on by the Greeks and turks one both sides of the island. Nowt happened.

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