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28mm Fanatik17 Apr 2018 7:31 p.m. PST

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Attenhut! As someone pointed out in my earlier thread, the Soviet VDV varied in arms and equipment from their Red Army Motor Rifle brethren. Gone are PKM GPMG's and the ubiquitous RPG-7's. In their stead are lighter and more portable RPKS-74's and RPG-16D's. So use these cards instead. I kept the numbers of vehicles the same as a Motor Rifle Company at four, nine and 12. The transport attachment in my previous thread remains unchanged.

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28mm Fanatik21 Apr 2018 7:50 p.m. PST

If you want to replace all the AT-3 Sagger missiles of the BMD's with AT-5 Spandrels, thus making them into BMD-1P's instead, I would increase the points per company incrementally starting at +1 point for the minimum-sized company.

So a 4-vehicle BMD company with AT-5's would now cost 6 points instead of 5, the 9-vehicle company costs 13 points instead of 11, and the 12-vehicle company 18 points rather than 15.

The battalion command vehicle would remain at 1 point, making the upgrade free.

JARROVIAN Supporting Member of TMP22 Apr 2018 1:51 a.m. PST

I thought the BMD 1P was armed with AT4 Spigot, not Spandrel.

nikolas93ts22 Apr 2018 4:33 a.m. PST

Original 9K111 Fagot missile-launcher complex used 9P135 launcher, compatible only with 9M111 missile, and later got the universal 9P135M launcher.

9K111-1 Konkurs complex uses 9P135M launcher compatible with 9M111, 9M111M, 9M111-2, 9M113 and 9M113M missiles.

Only change compared to 9P135 was a universal mounting bracket to mount thicker (140 vs 120mm) 9M113 missile tube.

28mm Fanatik22 Apr 2018 10:54 a.m. PST

I thought the BMD 1P was armed with AT4 Spigot, not Spandrel.

It can carry both types.

"BMD-1P BMD-1 modernization with its 9S428 ATGM launcher replaced by pintle-mounted 9P135M-1 ATGM launcher capable of firing 9M113 "Konkurs" (AT-5 Spandrel), 9M113M "Konkurs-M" (AT-5B Spandrel B), 9M111 "Fagot" (AT-4 Spigot) and 9M111-2 "Fagot" (AT-4B Spigot B) ATGMs. Entered service in 1977."

From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMD-1

It's also the missile that comes with the nice Armies Army model: link

And the AT-5 Spandrel has an AT value of 21 vs. the AT-3's 19, which makes it worth the upgrade and additional points cost. The AT-4's AT value is not much better than the AT-3's.

Leadgend06 May 2018 10:44 p.m. PST

The RPK-74 in the normal Soviet TY infantry are rolled into the AK-74 stats. Why would they give a better rating for airborne?
Also the numbers for each "level" of company should be:
smallest (company HQ + 1 platoon): 5 BMD, 2 AK-74 teams, 3 AK-74+RPG-16 teams
medium (company HQ + 2 platoons): 9 BMD, 3 AK-74 teams, 6 AK-74+RPG-16 teams
large (company HQ + 3 platoons) : 13 BMD, 4 AK-74 teams, 9 AK-74+RPG-16 teams

Leadgend06 May 2018 10:47 p.m. PST

The RPKS-74 fired the same 5.45mm round as the AKS-74 so doesn't have any substantial range or AT advantage. See link

28mm Fanatik07 May 2018 7:29 a.m. PST

I see. I'll correct the cards if there's sufficient demand.

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